By BretWith1T
From Laramie, Wyoming
Aug 13, 2012
| To the weak and misguided soul who chopped the belay station and painted a swastika on the rock at Limbo Rock in Vedauwoo:
It's sad that you are so broken and insecure. It is also sad that your stupidity allowed you to deface my home crag-a wonderful place we all enjoy. Your message of hatred, no matter how pathetic, has been heard. It doesn't point me to a legit viewpoint; it only emphasizes your lack of maturity and your ignorance. I'd like to have an opportunity to discuss your antisemitic viewpoint and your destructive action in person. Reply to me if you can muster some modicum of courage. If not, you will have confirmed my assumptions about your character as you run away from your responsibility.
-Bret | 
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By erik wellborn
From manitou springs
Aug 13, 2012
| Say what you want about the tenents of National Socialism... |
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By Buff Johnson
Aug 13, 2012
| conservation nazis!
making the planet safe from the unpure race, and texans
sieg hail! |
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By wendy weiss
Aug 13, 2012
| I've never been to Vedauwoo. Is the belay station accessible to non-climbers? |
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By CJC
Aug 13, 2012
| i can't believe you'd expect whoever did that to be on MP.
might as well go stand in front of a wall and shout it.
but sorry about your bolts dude. |
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By JasonJNSmith
From Denver
Aug 13, 2012
| Smokey this is not Nam. This is climbing. There are rules. |
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By Jake Jones
From The Eastern Flatlands
Aug 13, 2012
| My buddies didn't die face down in the mud so you could chop bolts and spraypaint swastikas.
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By Killing In The Name Of
Aug 13, 2012
| The irony that I read this just after posting a bolt chopping thread and mentioning Nazis is utterly hilarious to me.
We really don't have a lot of variety happening on the site, do we?
For what it's worth, I would have posted a celtic cross to throw the Irish under the bus. And replaced the bolts with knifeblades for later free climbing.
I see dumb people... |
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By Paul Carlson
From laramie, wyoming
Aug 13, 2012
| erik wellborn wrote: Say what you want about the tenents of National Socialism...
"I’m talking about drawing a line in the sand, Dude. Across this line, you DO NOT… Also, Dude, chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature.” |
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By BretWith1T
From Laramie, Wyoming
Aug 14, 2012
| Not my bolts...just my planet. Don't crap on it or its inhabitants...pretty please. |
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By Princess Mia
From Vail
Aug 14, 2012
| Any graffiti on rock is wrong. I wish all would respect the environment. With that said I doubt any climbers did such a horrible act. I go to the Voo a lot and have noticed loads of trash, glass and graffiti all over. Especially at the primitive camp sites. Again I seriously doubt this is from climbers........... |
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By BigJuggsjohnson
Aug 14, 2012
| frat partyers!Bold Text
pranksters, what they call themselves. Nothing but a bunch of clouns! |
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By Scott McMahon
From Boulder, CO
Aug 14, 2012
| Southern Wyoming is kind of a pit, so I don't find that totally suprising. It's the only place I've seen swastikas and white power written on a bathroom wall. I didn't know people did that anymore. |
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By Ray Pinpillage
Aug 14, 2012
| erik wellborn wrote: Say what you want about the tenents of National Socialism...
At least they have an ethos. |
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By Paul Carlson
From laramie, wyoming
Aug 14, 2012
| Scott McMahon wrote: Southern Wyoming is kind of a pit, so I don't find that totally suprising. It's the only place I've seen swastikas and white power written on a bathroom wall. I didn't know people did that anymore.
then feel free to stay happily down there in your bubble |
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By Glenn Schuler
From Monument, Co.
Aug 14, 2012
| Paul Carlson wrote: then feel free to stay happily down there in your bubble
Ohhh shit, Wyoming vs. Greenie deathmatch forthcoming......again. |
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By VerticalUrge
Aug 15, 2012
| Glenn Schuler wrote: Ohhh shit, Wyoming vs. Greenie deathmatch forthcoming......again.
Glenn- You could probably start the WY v. CO thread elsewhere, maybe one of the forums unrelated to climbing.
BretWith1T- I agree with PrincessMia, it seems as though people have been thoroughly trashing the dispersed sites more and more. The sites near End of the Road, along Vedauwoo Rd, and down near Devil's Playground are frequently covered with debris and generally trashed. The lot near Beer Crack looks like it was defiled as of late. Graffiti popped up on some boulders at the Nautilus last year and that parking lot has been in littered with shit this season, too.
I recently read about the Broken Windows theory (link here), an idea that accepting certain things as norms, like accepting the current state of Vedauwoo, begets further abuses.
Whether you agree with the theory or not, maybe it would take an effort from some locals taking care of the place to effect a change. Maybe not, I don't know. At least it would look better. I wouldn't mind meeting up with some folks to do a cleanup. |
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By Scott McMahon
From Boulder, CO
Aug 15, 2012
| Paul Carlson wrote: then feel free to stay happily down there in your bubble
Oh I do. No offense meant really, but hey it's true.
See you on the next Boulder bashing page. |
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By Ben Boykin
From Cheyenne, WY
Aug 15, 2012
| All Killer No Filler wrote: The irony that I read this just after posting a bolt chopping thread and mentioning Nazis is utterly hilarious to me. We really don't have a lot of variety happening on the site, do we? For what it's worth, I would have posted a celtic cross to throw the Irish under the bus. And replaced the bolts with knifeblades for later free climbing. I see dumb people...
Troll. Try placing KB's on a slab. Silly boy. |
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By Paul Carlson
From laramie, wyoming
Aug 15, 2012
| Scott McMahon wrote: No offense meant really, but hey it's true.
Scott McMahon wrote: See you on the next Boulder bashing page.
scott, there are a lot of amazing things about boulder. if you want to talk about it more, there's already a thread started: www.mountainproject.com/v/boulder/106777170
VerticalUrge wrote: I recently read about the Broken Windows theory (link here), an idea that accepting certain things as norms, like accepting the current state of Vedauwoo, begets further abuses. |
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