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Virga 

YDS: 5.13c/d French: 8b Ewbanks: 31 UIAA: X ZA: 31 British: E8 7a

   
Type:  Sport, 60'
Consensus:  YDS: 5.13c/d French: 8b Ewbanks: 31 UIAA: X ZA: 31 British: E8 7a [details]
FA: Established by Paul Piana, FA Matt Lund
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Submitted By: Tom Rangitsch on Aug 30, 2008

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Start right of the Killer start. Virga ascendes a line of pockets starting out of an overlap pretty far off the ground (it requires an A0 start). Sequential reaches to good pockets.

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By Jeremy Noring
From: Salt Lake City, Utah
May 30, 2014

Matt Lund had the FA on this route, not Paul Piana. He onsighted it as well, if memory serves.
By Tom Rangitsch
From: Lander, WY
Jun 24, 2014

This was a closed project of Piana, if memory serves. Just because someone stole the first repoint, and so amazingly on sighted it (wow, 5.13d, that almost never happens!), does not make it their route.
By Jeremy Noring
From: Salt Lake City, Utah
Jul 28, 2014

Matt's argument was that it had been "closed" for years, if memory serves. I find the "stole the first redpoint" claim somewhat questionable given that consideration. There's got to be some unwritten statute of limitations on a red tag; otherwise the actual theft is from the climbing community as a whole.

Also, the most recent guidebook of Sinks lists Matt as having the FA on this route, as well as Smoke Shapes.
By Skyler B
Feb 19, 2015

Has anybody linked this into the line that traverses over above the anchors of Virga?
By Mike Snyder
Administrator
Mar 4, 2015

The American climbing community has such retarded ideals on the "FA" of a sport route. Credit should be given to the person who had the vision and put the time, effort and coin into establishing the route, period. Red tagging for years as Piana and Skinner did, truly robs the rest of us from climbing experiences and as such should be limited. It is overly egotistical and implies ownership of a thing that cannot be owned regardless of the commitment invested. However, the first person to climb a route is significant as well and should also be noted in guidebooks or when relating historical info. It is ridiculous to completely erase the name of the person who created the route when someone else climbs it first.

Having stated this, I changed the credit for this route to show that there were two parties involved in opening this route.
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