|Type:||Sport, 1 pitch, 60'|
|Consensus:||YDS: 5.10+ French: 6b+ Ewbanks: 21 UIAA: VII+ ZA: 20 British: E3 5b [details]|
|Submitted By:||rob bauer on Nov 21, 2012|
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From: Yucca Valley, CA
Jan 25, 2014
The polished rock makes this climb very difficult to rate.
IMO it's closer to 10d (maybe even 11a).
Also, IMHO a name should not be given to a route just because the original is unknown.
What's wrong with just putting it down as UKN?
By Ralph Kolva
From: Evergreen, CO
May 27, 2014
|Agree with Locker, this climb is polished (didn't notice any friable sections on this one although plenty of it on other routes here) and harder than 5.10 on the lower section.|
From: Highlands Ranch, CO
Jun 2, 2014
rating: 5.11b 6c 23 VIII- 23 E3 5c
I actually managed to lead this route once: I think I came off something like 20 times before managing to make it up the lower section. It is very slippery, and the movement is on really tenuous holds. The upper section is fun 5.8 or 5.9.
I have no reservations saying it is much harder than a 10a in the lower section. The falls are clean and it is well bolted, though.
By Jay Eggleston
Oct 5, 2015
rating: 5.11a 6c 22 VII+ 22 E3 5c
|This is certainly harder than 10a! I fell twice on the lower section, got frustrated, and aided by pulling on a draw. It is not a bad route but is harder than 10a.|