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Oct 18, 2012
Flakes of Wrath
Anybody used it? I am looking at getting into ice climbing this season. Already got boots/crampons, and the wallet is very thin. I can get pro deals on trango stuff, is it going to suck? I'd be spending twice as much to get a pair of BD's or Petzls, alternatively I could buy somebody's old axes. Which do you think would suit a new climber better?

Link: trango.com/ice_gear/scorpion
Paul-B
Joined Mar 26, 2011
120 points
Oct 18, 2012
I've not used them, but I've heard other people say they were quite good. Trango has a long history of making excellent tools. Graham Johnson
Joined Apr 27, 2006
1 points
Oct 18, 2012
Free Solo up hitchcock gully WI3
actually to get a pair of new vipers would only be $60 dollars more on mountaingear at the moment. superkick
From West Hartford, CT
Joined Aug 23, 2011
31 points
Oct 18, 2012
Flakes of Wrath
superkick wrote:
actually to get a pair of new vipers would only be $60 dollars more on mountaingear at the moment.

Wrong. As previously stated, I get prodeals on Trango stuff. It would be more than 200 dollars more.
Paul-B
Joined Mar 26, 2011
120 points
Oct 18, 2012
Dreamweaver
A friend of mine has a pair that I climbed on last year. I like them quite a bit and put some thought into getting a pair. The only complaint I had and what ultimately kept me from getting them was the fact that you can't swap out the hammers for an adze and I just prefer Petzl.

Otherwise, nice and they stick pretty well. Definitely a good first set of tools.
Dave Bn
From Fort Collins, CO
Joined Jul 13, 2011
15 points
Oct 18, 2012
hi
They climb surprisingly good! Do it, you wont go wrong for pure ice lines. jon jugenheimer
From Madison
Joined Apr 24, 2006
1,305 points
Oct 18, 2012
I have a pair and they are actually pretty good for vertical ice (up to WI4). Anything over that (or an mixed) and you should look elsewhere. Also, I was never really able to find a good leash that worked well with them thus ended up using them leashless which seems fine.

In all reality I pretty much use my Nomic's exclusively and break these out for a tool-less 2nd or when the use of a straight shaft is required.

PS. Mine are still in VERY good shape and up for sale if anyone wants to buy them.

Cheers.
The Llama
Joined Aug 18, 2003
2 points
Oct 18, 2012
From Mountain Magazine (Bruce Carson's first clean...
Whatever happened to the "Don't talk about your pro deal or you will lose it" agreement that most companies make you sign when you are accepted in the program?

And for the axes, I thought they sucked. Bent one pick, and don;t count on the hammers lasting long at all if you have to pound anything (picket, pin, etc.) The soft metal deforms very quickly.
Ryan Huetter
From Mammoth Lakes, CA
Joined Apr 10, 2006
213 points
Oct 19, 2012
My wife used scorpions for the first few years of her ice climbing. They are really fantastic tools. After that she went to the Cassin X-All MTN tools, which are probably the best pure ice tool on the market right now. (I liked hers so much I switched to them, also). We still have the Scorpions and loan them to new climbers because they have a very easy, natural swing.

One poster said it absolutely correct that the Scorpions start to run out of steam at WI4 and above, but if you're new to climbing that will be a while. If that's a concern, or you want a pure leashless tool or want to climbed mixed routes, Trango just came out with a new tool that looks like a cross between a BD Fusion and a Nomic. They are worth a serious look. I think Dane on Cold Thistle just reviewed them.

One last piece of advice - go leashless from the start no matter what tool you get. Unless you're a B.A.M.F. (and/or my wife), ditching the leashes will be a pain if you start with them. Much better to learn to climb properly without them to start. Search for Will Gadd's blog post on proper swing technique. Try to emulate that.

Climb safe and have fun.
Patrick Carey
From Keene, NY
Joined Feb 4, 2011
12 points
Oct 20, 2012
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They are a little longer than other similar tools. The head weight is nice. The picks are soft, I bent the tips with very little use. Plan on shaping the picks because they dinner plate cold ice. If you plan on banging pins or pickets you're going to ruin them.

For what they cost pro, or sell for used, they are a steel. There are obviously better tools but these work pretty well for the money.
Ray Pinpillage
From West Egg
Joined Jul 23, 2010
130 points
Oct 20, 2012
Rock Wars, RRG, 2008
Ray Pinpillage wrote:
They are a little longer than other similar tools. The head weight is nice. The picks are soft, I bent the tips with very little use. Plan on shaping the picks because they dinner plate cold ice. If you plan on banging pins or pickets you're going to ruin them. For what they cost pro, or sell for used, they are a steel. There are obviously better tools but these work pretty well for the money.


Bingo. Friend has a pair and they are really nice tools.
Woodchuck ATC
Joined Nov 29, 2007
3,091 points
Oct 30, 2012
They are quite nice, however if you are serious about climbing ice, you will just want to upgrade to Nomic, fusion or X-Ice or a more modern design. If the price is right, then go for it, but realize you will be looking elsewhere quickly. You can always give them to your significant other - or use one as a third tool. funkyicemonkey
From Colorado
Joined Nov 21, 2011
4 points


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