trango scorpians ice tools- anyone used them?

I'm thinking about purchasing a pair of trango scorpian ice tools. Does anyone out there have experience with these or even know anyone who does?
thanks in advance

Yes. My opinion? They are cheap, both in price and quality. I bought a pair new, and offloaded them shortly thereafter. After hammering several pins the hammer, which is a low quality metal, began dinging up really bad, and I broke the tip of a pick off while climbing a mixed pitch.
For the same price you could get any number of older, better used tools.

thank you very much. I dont think i will get them now

Are they really that bad? Trango's got a long history of making excellent tools - I find it hard to believe they would put out a tool that was a complete POS. I've swung the scorpions in the shop and thought they felt nice, and I've used some earlier generations of trango tools and thought they were good. For what it's worth, I ripped chunks off of my BD micro hammers pounding pins in too.

I bought a pair of brand new Scorpions here for less than what I can buy a single used BD Viper. I haven't climbed on them yet but for the price they can be giant pieces of shit and it won't matter. My intent was to get into a low cost ice tool(s) that allows me to decide what is really important to me. There is no question the Scorpion is not as good as high end tools, I don't think they are supposed to be.

I'm ready to dry tool and mud pick the living shit out of these tools. I don't know if I'll pound in pins with them, Trango says not to so it won't come as a surprise if they break.

I wouldnt be so quick to hate on the tools. the only down side i have experianced is its a bitch to hammer pins. I use them for alpine and some mixed too. i like them because they are slightly longer then most tools on the market and are half the cost. unless you think you will be hammering pins non stop in the mountains these are a great price point moderate tool. I give them 2 thumbs up for cost and function.

Bought of pair of new scorpions at the beginning of this ice season, and they are rocking out. Haven't done any mixed climbing yet, but for WI3-5 they have performed great. I have compared them back to back with the Vipers and I can't tell any difference. Weight is maybe + or - an ounce and the angle of the shaft is almost exact. Both tools were only 330 after tax bought straight from the gear shop counter. They also plunge well for alpine and as a second axe ski mountaineering. I have been using them leashless also. If you're looking to buy a second set of tools or just start out go get a set.

The Scorpion picks are really soft. They blunt out easy and the teeth bend over. I have another set of picks but I doubt I'll use them before I replace the tools.

I love my scorpion tools. I have never had a problem bending breaking the picks. I only climb ice with them and don't pound pins or climb alot of mixed stuff. I think that they are a great tool and an awesome value.

Kevin Kent: If you'll be at the Ouray Ice Festival I'll have a pair you can borrow for a day. I prefer the Madame Hooks so I haven't climbed on the Scorions a ton but when I do I like the way they swing and plant and, in fact, refer them over many of the heavier headed tools that are popular today.

Try them out and make your own decisions.

Mal

I have borrowed a few different tools from friends and prefer the Scorpions over all of them so far. So much so, that I just purchased a set this week. The price was also a huge factor. As others have said, they may have faults but if you understand them, I think you will be fine.