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Traditions 

YDS: 5.11c French: 6c+ Ewbanks: 24 UIAA: VIII- ZA: 24 British: E4 6a

   
Type:  Trad, 8 pitches, 700', Grade III
Consensus:  YDS: 5.11c French: 6c+ Ewbanks: 24 UIAA: VIII- ZA: 24 British: E4 6a [details]
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Submitted By: Stephen F on Oct 13, 2010

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Description 

P1: Slab up a full rope length, cutting hard left at the bowl near half way (extend your gear with several slings), passing some cruxy smears and a couple of bolts to a double bolt anchor at the base of a steep face right of a right facing dihedral. (5.9+)

P2: Climb right off of the belay and fire up over a few bolts to a single bolt belay with gear. (5.11a)

P3: Trend hard right and follow the path of least resistance up the juggy but poorly protected face. When in doubt, go right. Pass a bolt and a fixed pin to a two bolt anchor. (5.8) Linking pitches two and three is possible with a 70m cord and some long runners.

P4: Continue up the face past some gear to the ledge left of the Crescent Pitch on the OR. Cut hard left to the base of the obvious crux pitch and build a gear belay where the bolted belay once was. (5.8)

P5: Pull the short left facing corner feature to gain a ledge and then a bolt, continue straight up over steeper but juggy terrain, passing more fixed gear, then cut left and engage the thin crux. After the crux, carefully climb the unprotected face above to a two bolt anchor. (5.11c)

P6: Walk right along the ledge until you can head up over fixed gear to a stance and belay. (5.9+)

P7: Beginning at a short right facing dihedral, go straight up past some juggy features and a couple of bolts to the base of a tree ledge and belay. (5.10a)

P8: Thrash through the bushes to the base of the rock and climb the featured slab to the top of the route, trending a bit right near the end. Belay below the rail. (5.8)

Recommended Alternative: At the base of pitch 6, leave the belay to the left and climb straight up over the fairly well protected faced (5.9) and link this with pitch 7 (5.10a) for a much more direct and highly enjoyable alternate.

Location 

Located on the "right" end of the Southeast face, the first pitch begins at the base of a slab with a low bolt and an overlap at around 50 feet before you reach the Original Route. This route is currently subject to seasonal falcon closures, so please check the kiosk at the trail head for restrictions (strictly enforced).

Protection 

Take a single rack through #2 C4 with an optional #3, a few smaller brassies, some tricams, half a dozen draws, and some long slings.

While the cruxes can be french freed, there is some runout moderate terrain.


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By JohnWesely
From: Red River Gorge
Oct 21, 2010
rating: 5.11c 6c+ 24 VIII- 24 E4 6a R

That flake gave me the heeby jeebies
By Jeff Mekolites
From: HOTlanta, GA
May 25, 2011
rating: 5.11+ 7a 24 VIII 24 E4 6a R

We managed to do this in 6 pitches with double 60 m ropes. Also at the top of pitch 2, I found a two bolt belay (I went mostly straight up from the crux on that pitch...passing a couple (?) of bolts and an odd/stray new bolt (maybe Dennis's) out right). Then straight up from there (passing one more bolt, some gear) puts you below/slightly left of the 11c pitch.
By andjoely
From: Menlo Park, CA
Jun 6, 2011

From where p3 traverses extremely far to the right to climb hollow flakes and dirty rock, the best thing to do is continue straight above the bolt, climbing the flared crack that takes good tricams for pro. Continue up to belay from medium cams in a horizontal below a 2 foot roof. On the next pitch, you can climb around the left side of the roof then trend up and right to the base of the crux pitch. The bolts to your left are part of route doctors. This variation is way better than the climbing on the original p3-p4 and has probably just as good if not better pro. Link p2 all the way to the belay in that horizontal for a nice direct 190 foot pitch
By Derek DeBruin
Mar 18, 2013

I disagree about the .10a crux with a 60 foot fall. There is indeed a "hard" move above the last bolt on the crux pitch, but it's no more than 5.8 or 5.9. It's a high-step/mantle depending on how you do it and it's only about 12 feet above the last bolt, maybe less than that. Calling it .10a with 60 foot fall potential is a bit alarmist.
By beatfeet
From: Nashville, TN
Jul 5, 2013
rating: 5.11d 7a 24 VIII 25 E5 6a R

Awesome line that would probably see a lot more traffic if it weren't for Whiteside's reputation and the mank bolts. If the first pitch runouts don't bother you, the rest of the route shouldn't be a problem. It's too bad such a good line has been left to deteriorate (and has 3 chopped bolts at the crux pitch belay).
By michael sticher
Oct 14, 2013

After the bolted crux on p2 I headed up and right continuously until I found 2 bolts without rings. I was far left of the OR crux pitch. regardless, a licheny pitch up and left took me to the piton below crux pitch. Also, I did the recommended direct finish; I havent done the other finish but this one was awesome steep juggy climbing w/ good pro
By TomCaldwell
From: Clemson, S.C.
Jun 21, 2014

This climb was updated recently. All bolts are in great shape or brand new. Thanks Frost and Co. None of the original FA chopped bolts were restored. So this was a 1 for 1 back to it's most recent state. The P3 anchors had a bolt added to the belay. It would have been nice to see the first bolt on P1 restored, or at least cored out for a removable bolt placement. The crux pitch belay doesn't need anchors, there are plenty of gear anchors around that ledge.

Used Andrew's beta for P3, going directly up flared crack. This is a much more direct line. After the crack continue skirting the roofs on the left side then trend back slightly right to the large ledge. Several gear belay opportunities on the ledge. To reach the ledge with a 60m, your belayer may have to simul about 10-20'. This wasn't a problem since the start of P3 is relatively easy.