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Spoke with Totem via email about this last, and they didn't give me a date when their webstore would have cams available for purchase. Totem is apparently just shipping out new stock to some retailers (Backcountrygear.com for example) and they'll have them available. Joe Palma
From Stouffville, Ontario
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11 July 2014. Belaying from atop White Spire, stac...
MP Friends,

I know some of you are craving to get your Totem's on. I contacted Totem with a few questions thinking of this entire thread. Here you go, for those that are interested. This is in reference to the Totem Basic Cams (Alien style), not the Totem Cams.

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Hi Jason:

I will answer your question:

Q: Do you have any time frame on when the web store will reopen?

A: We really hope to re-open the web store in the last week of July estimated.


Q: The Main Page of your website shows the Newest of the Basic Cam lineup, the Blue, and another of the updated Red. Will the Green, Yellow and Hybrids also have the Updates (Improved Teeth, Trigger Bar Color, etc)? If so, when do they planned to be released?

A: All our new basic cams are been manufactured with the last improvements.


Q:If I order cams from either backcountrygear.com or gearcoop.com (the only two sites I have found that sells Totems), will they be the updated cams, or the previous generation?

A: Iīam sure that in these places they havenīt got the updated design yet.


Q: Can you update your website, specifically concerning photographs as well as specifications for the Blue Basic Cam and the Blue/Green Hybrid Basic Cam? Also, for us non-metric Americans, can you have a conversion chart?

A: We are working on the website. Soon we will update all the info and photos. We are working full time with production, day only has 24 hours... itīs a busy time for us.

Here are the Basic Cams in Inches:

Totem Basic Blue 0.50: 0.44"-0.68"
Totem Basic Blue/Green Hybrid: 0.60 HY: 0.53"-0.68"
Totem Basic Green 0.65: 0.53"-0.84"
Totem Basic Green/Yellow Hybrid: 0.70 HY: 0.65"-0.84"
Totem Basic Yellow 0.75: 0.65"-1.02"
Totem Basic Yellow/Red Hybrid 0.85 HY: 0.78"-1.02"
Totem Basic Red 0.95: 0.78"-1.24"

Thank you so much

Best regards

Unai Arrieta
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Gear Coop says they have the updated versions. I will be in Southern California next week to Verify. I know both websites have out of date pics.
There you have it. Enjoy.
Jason Parks
From Colorado Springs, CO
Joined Nov 14, 2011
752 points
Jul 14, 2013
Mountain Bandito
At least Fixe is based in Colorado and the owner Kevin is a stand-up guy. BUY LOCAL! Taylor-B.
From CO & AK
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Jul 14, 2013
Taylor-B. wrote:
At least Fixe is based in Colorado and the owner Kevin is a stand-up guy. BUY LOCAL!



Actually, Fixe is based in Spain while Fixe USA (Fixe's US distributor) is in Colorado, or so I understand.
Allen Corneau
From Houston, TX
Joined May 6, 2008
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Jul 14, 2013
Grande Grotto
Allen Corneau wrote:
Actually, Fixe is based in Spain while Fixe USA (Fixe's US distributor) is in Colorado, or so I understand.


Fixe USA is out of Bishop, CA


Jason Parks wrote:
Gear Coop says they have the updated versions. I will be in Southern California next week to Verify. I know both websites have out of date pics. There you have it. Enjoy.


Not sure about the previously available sizes but both GearCoop and Backcountrygear have the newer versions of the Blue and Blue/Green Hybrid
mattm
From TX
Joined Jun 2, 2006
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Jul 14, 2013
top of mt. lady washington - rmnp
Jason, thanks for sharing your findings. I'm excited to get my hands on a blue basic. Andrew Mayer
Joined Nov 14, 2010
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Jul 16, 2013
crevasse climbing on the Matnuska, AK
Just a heads up for anyone about to order: I put in an order for a full set of basics (non-hybrids) with BackcountryGear about 2 weeks ago when they were still listed as backordered. Pictures on their website are still the old models but I got mine in the mail yesterday and all are the updated version! Like everyone has said, quality looks fantastic.

So unless some of these guys have some older stock sitting around, seems like anyone waiting on regular basics from online should be getting the newest iteration.

updated totem basics
updated totem basics
Anthony Arena
From Boulder, CO
Joined Jan 12, 2010
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Jul 16, 2013
those are really really good looking. Rob D.
From Brooklyn, NY
Joined May 18, 2011
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Jul 16, 2013
Jumping across the mace gap with a PBR
damn, sexy! Robbie Brown
From Flagstaff, AZ
Joined Apr 1, 2012
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Jul 18, 2013
11 July 2014. Belaying from atop White Spire, stac...
Visited Gear Co-op in the O.C. They did have the Newest Generation Totem Basics. Wife gave me the okay to commit, so here they are!
Full Set O Totems basking in the SoCal Sun.
Full Set O Totems basking in the SoCal Sun.


Yeah, that's a purple mexican blanket.
Yeah, that's a purple mexican blanket.


By the way, if you live in SoCal (or visiting for that matter), Gear Co-op has a free "membership" that gets you 10% off everything you buy (in store only, not online). And they were super nice there!

Got my cams, now go out and get yours!
Jason Parks
From Colorado Springs, CO
Joined Nov 14, 2011
752 points
Jul 18, 2013
uintas
Jason,
Thats good to hear, I just ordered some yesterday from gear co op:) can't wait to get em!
Mattberr
From utah
Joined May 1, 2010
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Jul 24, 2013
P3 on the Nutcracker.
Jason Wrote:

Totem Basic Blue 0.50: 0.44"-0.68"
Totem Basic Blue/Green Hybrid: 0.60 HY: 0.53"-0.68"
Totem Basic Green 0.65: 0.53"-0.84"
Totem Basic Green/Yellow Hybrid: 0.70 HY: 0.65"-0.84"
Totem Basic Yellow 0.75: 0.65"-1.02"
Totem Basic Yellow/Red Hybrid 0.85 HY: 0.78"-1.02"
Totem Basic Red 0.95: 0.78"-1.24"

Fixe Aliens
.33 black - .33-.54 in.
3/8 blue - .40-.67
1/2 green - .53-.86
3/4 yellow - .63-1.05
7/8 grey - .74-1.17
1 red - .78-1.33

Looks like the one advantage with fixe is the extra sizes. Personally I dont use the flexible cams at the .75-1.25'' range (equivalent to a .5 C4). Do a lot of people use the flexible cams in the bigger sizes??

Im thinking about picking up a set of one of these. I have C3s and few X4s. Not sure what to get. Looks like the new features on the totems are great just bummed they dont have more sizes that are not offset.
Josh Allred
From Salt Lake City, UT
Joined Mar 10, 2011
135 points
Jul 30, 2013
Davy Jones' Locker (5.7)
Going to Squamish in 3 weeks, come on totem OPEN THAT WEB STORE AND TAKE MY MONEY!! I'd order from backcountrygear.com but totem has a warehouse in BC so shipping would be cheaper and faster if I order direct. Fingers and toes are all crossed. ericthemurse
From Victoria, BC
Joined Jul 30, 2013
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Jul 30, 2013
On Mt. Evans
FYI backcountrygear.com has free shipping on anything over $49, and 20% off! VolklKarma
From Wheat Ridge
Joined Mar 23, 2008
30 points
Jul 30, 2013
Davy Jones' Locker (5.7)
Yeah I saw that on the site and was stoked, but then saw that it doesn't apply to Canada... Ha ericthemurse
From Victoria, BC
Joined Jul 30, 2013
10 points
Jul 31, 2013
and those are definitely the new totems? Rob D.
From Brooklyn, NY
Joined May 18, 2011
37 points
Jul 31, 2013
On Mt. Evans
Came home today and found the first of my totem basics had already arrived!


.95 Totem Basic
.95 Totem Basic
VolklKarma
From Wheat Ridge
Joined Mar 23, 2008
30 points
Aug 1, 2013
Davy Jones' Locker (5.7)
Got an email saying that their web store won't be open until mid September now. ericthemurse
From Victoria, BC
Joined Jul 30, 2013
10 points
Nov 5, 2013
Brass monkey
So I am considering selling my TCU set (sans gray) to pick up all four of the totem sizes. They would be supplementing my set of mastercams. Thoughts on this?

How is the holding power and durability been so far? I enjoy falling on my gear so the extra holding power metolius claims always makes me feel a little more comfortable. Thanks!
Brassmonkey
Joined Jan 19, 2012
70 points
Nov 5, 2013
Can you even buy any? Who's got em in stock? gtluke
Joined May 29, 2012
9 points
Nov 5, 2013
Brass monkey
From what I have been able to find 2 of the sizes are available, 2 are back-ordered...but they aren't going to be back-ordered forever I would assume. Brassmonkey
Joined Jan 19, 2012
70 points
Nov 5, 2013
I had a blue basic and some regular totems on order through backcountrygear.com, but they told me a couple of weeks ago that Totem informed them they wouldn't be shipping any more cams for the rest of the year.

Apparently they've been moving factories which is causing some delays. And they couldn't say when they'll be shipping again, but hopefully in January.
James Dudley
From Sunnyvale, CA
Joined May 28, 2013
0 points
Nov 5, 2013
exacting wording from backcountrygear.com:

I regret to inform you that Totem has informed us that they will not be shipping out any more cams for the remainder of the 2013 year.

They were in the process of moving factories, which is causing the extreme delay in production. I apologize for the inconvenience.

We will keep your order saved in our system, and we will process your order as soon as Totem starts processing orders again in 2014. Totem is not yet sure when they will begin to start shipping the cams in 2014, but they are hoping for next January.
reboot
From Westminster, CO
Joined Jul 17, 2006
143 points
Nov 5, 2013
Brass monkey
Well thats quite the buzzkill! I could purchase 2 now (which I'm pretty sure you still can, though I may be wrong) and get green and blue later. I'd be willing to wait anyway since I could make it work in the meantime.

So purchasing abilities aside, any thoughts on the original questions about dependability and supplementing as doubles with mastercams? Holding power vs MC's (16 deg vs 13ish)?
Someone out there has to have some real rock time on them I hope!
Brassmonkey
Joined Jan 19, 2012
70 points
Nov 5, 2013
" Holding power vs MC's? (I cant find the angle they use for the lobes) "


I believe the Alien/Basic has a 16 degree cam angle; so technically less holding power but most folks that use them don't seem to mind.
Allen Corneau
From Houston, TX
Joined May 6, 2008
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