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Elevation: 3,794 ft
GPS: 37.72521, -119.7068
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A smaller cliff downstream of New Diversions sporting some good routes including Cramming, Tips, and Stubs.

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From Meyers 1986: "The Upper Routes (Weird Scenes...Agent Orange) are approached from above. Park at the Owl Roof turnout on highway 120. Locate the B-1 marker beside the road and hike down to the edge of the cliff. Bring one rope for the rappel approach and one rope with which to climb out.

The other routes are approached from Hwy 140, starting from a gravel parking area... 1.5 miles down west of the Hwy 120/140 junction... One [main climber's trail] goes straight up to Tips."

Look for a grassy area next to a house sized boulder. Park at the pullout for Cascade falls and walk up the highway past a couple of curves to find the large boulder. Walk past the boulder and look for an small rock retaining wall with a couple of steps. Hike uphill from there. This is how you access the Tips side of the cliff. Look out for poison oak!

You can also park across the highway from the boulder, but this parking option is small.

The best way to get to Cramming is to take the trail to Tips and walk the base from there.

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Classic Climbing Routes at Ao. This and That Cliff

Mountain Project's determination of the classic, most popular, highest rated climbing routes in this area.
5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
 6
Whim
Trad
5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
 5
Said and Done
Trad
5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a
 10
This and That
Trad 3 pitches
5.10d 6b+ 21 VII+ 21 E3 5b
 20
Cramming
Trad
5.11+ 7a 24 VIII 24 E4 6a A0
 29
Tips
Trad, Aid
Route Name Location Star Rating Difficulty Date
Whim
 6
5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a Trad
Said and Done
 5
5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a Trad
This and That
 10
5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a Trad 3 pitches
Cramming
 20
5.10d 6b+ 21 VII+ 21 E3 5b Trad
Tips
 29
5.11+ 7a 24 VIII 24 E4 6a A0 Trad, Aid
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