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There and Back Again 

YDS: 5.4 French: 4a Ewbanks: 12 UIAA: IV ZA: 10 British: VD 3c R

Type:  Trad, 1 pitch, 35'
Consensus:  YDS: 5.4 French: 4a Ewbanks: 12 UIAA: IV ZA: 10 British: VD 3c [details]
FA: Lance Gunnerson, 3/89
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Submitted By: Blitzo on Dec 23, 2006

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BETA PHOTO: There and Back Again on the west face of Cave Rock

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Climb the dike on the northwest corner.


A few pieces.

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By Brian Hench
From: Costa Mesa, CA
Apr 29, 2008
rating: 5.4 4a 12 IV 10 VD 3c PG13

Don't let the R-rating scare you off. I protected this route adequately using a #4 Camalot at the top of the crack on the right and then with a couple of medium TCUs in the crack on the left.
By Brandt Allen
From: Joshua Tree, Cal
May 12, 2008

A fun climb which though slightly runout is not too bad. I'd agree with a PG rather than R rating. I didn't use any gear but tied off three horns with slings for pro.

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