The Turning Point 

In all honestly, this problem is probably V7 nowhere near V9.

Hey, AC - I think we all realize that bouldering grades are subjective. This is exactly the reason why we need other people's inputs. If several people suggest grades, a compromise can be made in the middle somewhere. I don't thing AC #2 was trying to be a jerk about it, he was just throwing out his impression of the climb.

I agree, ratings are subjective. However, that said, I have not know anyone who has done this problem and called it V9.

Why is everyone so hard on this problem. If it were graded V7/8, then no one would give a shit about it. If you have the ability to look past the grade, then this problem is not that bad. Its just that everyone seems to care a whole lot more about whether it is V9 V7 than about if it is a good problem.

This is a fantastic problem. Along with Hank's Boulder in the Poudre, this is one of the most aesthetic problems in the Front Range. Perched up on the BBC boulder with a great view of the Flatirons and Boulder. Fun and challenging moves. The crimp-rail is a little tough on the skin, but other than that the rock is great. The grade is irrelevant.

This is a very aesthetic problem and who cares if it is V7, V8 or V9. It is a cool problem and a beautiful line. Why as climbers we do not concentrate on just this?!?!

So that we can focus on problems that we might reasonably climb....
I.e.- a V7 is in my range. V9, not without a lot of work, and I don't do projects....
Hope that doesn't disturb anyone, but I like to know how hard something is before I walk a few miles to try it.

Just to check my bouldering-to-routes calibration:

V7=5.13-.
V9=5.13+.

Right?

My friends and I always called this line The Taxing Point, because you can never have it to yourself. It can be especially greasy in the summer because EVERYONE has to tax on The Taxing Point.

Nice problem. Just keep loose towards the top.

I know that everyone is saying not to talk about the grade on this, but honestly...it is V7/8.
The only reason it's V9 is because when Jay got the first ascent he bypassed many of the slopers on the right side of the boulder, making some desperate moves to the "turning point". Hence the name. Since then, people have brushed the shit out of the slopers until they were pretty usable, and with the right foot beta, it makes the line much more doable. Hence the downgrade.
Now will everyone stop complaining about it? It's a rad climb!

This is harder than Hueco's Mushroom Roof, which has been called the standard for V8 for 3 decades. Nowhere near V7.

Just comparing with other problems in The Satellites, it's definitely harder than Captain Hook, and I'd say that's V8. But I understand it's hard for a lot of you kids to get stronger and forget what grades are, lol. It's V8+/9 maybe.

I've never been to Boulder and have no opinion of this climb other than it looks like fun in the photos. I'm just impressed that this conversation is almost a decade old!

Finally got it! Amazing problem.

Absurdly lowball at the start on pretty poor rock, but overall it is a decent problem. Nowhere near 4 stars, but it is well worth doing if you can.