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The Sighting 

YDS: 5.8 French: 5b Ewbanks: 16 UIAA: VI- ZA: 15 British: HVS 4c

Type:  Sport, 60'
Consensus:  YDS: 5.8 French: 5b Ewbanks: 16 UIAA: VI- ZA: 15 British: HVS 4c [details]
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Submitted By: Crossing on Nov 25, 2011

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Work you way up either side of the slaby face, then using big holds climb the overhanging face to the anchors.


Starts at a 6 foot wide slaby face.


4 bolts to rap rings.

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By Larry S
Nov 28, 2011
rating: 5.7+ 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b

If you climb the arete on the left of the bolts, the climb is very easy once you're past the first bolt. 5.7 maybe? I haven't done the inside corner to the right yet, but that may be the full 5.10 variation. Watch for some loose stuff halfway up.
By Seth Derr
From: harrisburg, pa
Dec 14, 2011

I believe if you follow the slab straight up, avoiding the jugs to the left until the top, it is 5.10. I also believe that is a bit contrived, and there are enough quality 5.10's at safe harbor that this route should be downgraded to reflect the line of least resistance. I'd give it an .8
By Justin Johnsen
From: Sacramento, CA
Jun 26, 2014
rating: 5.10d 6b+ 21 VII+ 21 E3 5b

I believe the Sighting is 5.10d ish, and the 5.8 ish easy one next to it is Econoline.
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