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The Mouse Wall 


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Submitted By: David Stephens on Apr 29, 2007
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Description 

Sun first thing, shade in the afternoon. If you have not climbed at the Mouse yet and you like the Welcome, then you should love the Mouse. There are now 28 routes, the most in the 5.8 to 5.10 range. With all of them having 5 or 6 clips along with the anchors/lower offs than can been seen from the ground. They are not all world class, but it sure makes for one helluva day when you try and climb them all.


Getting There 

Just past the Welcome Wall (key word Just) is a trail that takes you around and up to the Mouse Wall, first route you come to is D-con (above the Slate Nations) keep on the left side about 10 15 mins more. From the top trail take the climbers path to the right just before you drop down into the notch.


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31 Total Routes


['4 Stars',0],['3 Stars',15],['2 Stars',12],['1 Star',4],['Bomb',0]
['<=5.6',0],['5.7',1],['5.8',8],['5.9',8],['5.10',12],['5.11',2],['5.12',0],['5.13',0],['>=5.14',0],['',0],['<=V1',0],['V2-3',0],['V4-5',0],['V6-7',0],['V8-9',0],['V10-11',0],['V12-13',0],['>=V14',0]

The Classics

Mountain Project's determination of some of the classic, most popular, highest rated routes for The Mouse Wall:
Red Hot Rodent   5.10b 6a+ 19 VII- 19 E2 5b     Sport, 1 pitch, 40'   
3 Blind Mice - 5.10c   5.10b/c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b     Sport, 50'   
Speedy Gonzales   5.11a 6c 22 VII+ 22 E3 5c     Sport, 1 pitch, 40'   
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By susan peplow
From: Joshua Tree
Jan 26, 2012

Come on, really? Dozens of routes posted for the Mouse Wall with "will update ASAP". You may be earning MP point ranking but losing them with the community. I appreciate having the route names and grades placed as a teaser but the "place card" holding thing has got to stop. Please either post detailed and accurate info or don't bother "Adding" routes.

The Homestead gets a lot of visitors with more traffic on the way by adding the routes with no descriptions you're effectively holding up the progress for people who are willing to post detailed info. Please don't take this personally, MP and this forum has seen this before in other areas. Many routes and areas ultimately get orphaned from this type of thing; please don't let this happen to you.

Thanks for trying Erik but without knowing you I'm hopeful you can do better.

By David Stephens
From: Spokane WA.
Feb 3, 2012

Erik, Now you have gone and done it! I'm glad its your butt and not mine. We can't make everybody happy can we. Susan, At least the routes are in the right order left to right and with only a few new ones thrown in... just to mess with ya. Have fun climbing on all that new hardware.

By susan peplow
From: Joshua Tree
Feb 9, 2012

Thanks David well at least that's good to know and get someone started. But really, what's with the place-cards on adding routes but not taking the time to add the info?

I don't get it, we've had this very same problem at other areas and people got chewed there too. Put up or shut up but this multi-month wait for details is just garbage. If you don't have the time, desire, info or inclination to post the route details then leave it for someone who does.

I'm all for the effort but so far, Erik's has been poorly executed. Or so in my opinion.

By 1Eric Rhicard
Feb 10, 2012

Hey Susan, I see that this has you annoyed. I think Erik was just trying to get everything down in order so we can start with the first route on the left and figure it out. I agree it would be nice to have more detailed info as that will make it easier to figure out which route we are actually doing. I assume he will post up more in the near future. I am glad he posted what he did and look forward to the rest of the info.

By susan peplow
From: Joshua Tree
Feb 11, 2012

Thanks EFR, I can appreciate that, I really can and I'll try and reign in my annoyance. Probably just carry over from another destination anyways. That said, I was in town a few weeks ago and was thinking of making a trip to the Homestead, lost interst due to lack of info and not enough energy to contact people directly. I've only been once a few years back and interested in all the new development you guys have been doing.

Maybe a tour this spring when Matt comes in? I'd drive over for that. Poor boy had to rope gun for us in Malham Cove this past summer, I'm sure we could get him in a harness again.

By 1Eric Rhicard
Feb 11, 2012

That would be fun. I plan on spending a fair amount of time up there. I hope Matt is feeling good enough to go.

By erik hamilton
Feb 14, 2012

Guideline #1: don't be a jerk
well sorry i could not please you susan. MP points whats that? had to go look it up had know idea. Been climbing at the stead for over 12 year, just thought it would be nice if more of the routs were posted up and in the right order.There is 169 routs posted and there is well over 200 at the stead. Just trying to help sorry I could not please you. what would you like ,things like it pulls a roof ,has under clings ,some slab come on its mouse wall nothing is taller than 50 feet. Just go there and climb. "I was in town a few weeks ago and was thinking of making a trip to the Homestead, lost interst due to lack of info " now thats a lame excuse not to go climbing. Sorry i spoiled your trip, due to lack of info on mouse wall. WOW. next time ill try to do better.

By David Stephens
From: Spokane WA.
Feb 16, 2012

Susan, For the record in 07 I bolted the first route on the mouse wall and Erik just bolted a new one. Who would have all this info that could even come close to adding it? There might be 6 climbers that know that info and Erik would be one of them. What would be better 28 unknown names and unknown FA's or at least 25 of them with there real names along with the real person that did the FA. Even Marty Karabin's fold out guide for specific route information, available for $5.00 needs to be updated and should have something to copy from.

By susan peplow
From: Joshua Tree
Mar 14, 2012

Erik, I'm sorry your panties are in a twist over my comments but I stand by them. I appreciate you putting the route names and said as much in my initial comment. That said, it was you who claimed the info would be updated "ASAP". Clearly you have more information that the average lurker since you did have route names, FA and basic info. I also appreciate that gathering this info is quite difficult as David Stephens so politely noted. It just comes down to the lack of info posted was in poor execution in my opinion. I also mentioned that I've seen it before it's frustrating when you want to visit an area. Perhaps you're fortunate enough to have not had this trouble. As to info provided, it wasn't known until later in the comments stream that they were entered in order left to right which is hugely helpful. Even that much in the description would be helpful.

Suggesting that I am requesting a spray-down of the route moves is ridiculous but a description as to generally where they could be found, height and bolt count would be helpful. The bolt count can be used not only for climbing the route but also to help identify as other lines come into play. I'm not a 5.12+ climber that can just walk up to a crag and tick off every route. Perhaps you are, but for me and probably a lot of others it could cause trouble.

I didn't read your resume to see that you've been climbing at the Homestead for 12 years. As I'm certain you would have no idea that lack of info on the Homestead or Mouse wall had ZERO impact on me climbing that day. It did however, contribute to me selecting a different destination for my one day of AZ climbing. Better to get in some routes than wondering around trying to decipher an area I'm unfamiliar with.

Cheers,

~Susan

By 1Eric Rhicard
Mar 14, 2012

Printed up all of Mouse Wall and turned my buddy Jimbo loose. He started on the right end and had no idea what route he was on. Just started clipping bolts and kind of wished he knew what route he was doing. Said he did do one really great climb up there on the Mouse Wall. It would be nice if you could add more info to help folks figure out what they are on Erik. Of course the left to right info is already out of date thanks to David. Hope you got them finished before you left. Nice to finally meet and spend some time with you David. Got the Flu or I would have been back up.

By David Stephens
From: Spokane WA.
Mar 18, 2012

Yes, I fucked things up on the Mouse Wall! I put up 3 more routes in the middle of the wall and it puts all the routes out of order. Dora sent them all to bed and they now all sand bagged and ready to go. I have made a new list of names with all the bolt counts, I even starched a few dog tags with names and grades, that should help. Eric, it was good to meet and spend some time with also, maybe you need to climb on the Mouse.

Posing by the new trail marker.
Posing by the new trail marker.