|Type:||Sport, 1 pitch, 90'|
|Consensus:||YDS: 5.11b French: 6c Ewbanks: 23 UIAA: VIII- ZA: 23 British: E3 5c [details]|
|FA:||Kirk Miller, Eric Schmeer (12/08)|
|Submitted By:||AOSR on Dec 7, 2008|
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By Matt Bolt
Apr 15, 2009
|Very fun climb. Route finding seem to be the demise of my onsight attempt. Can't wait to get back and tick off the rest the routes here.|
By Sean Wolf
From: Denver, CO
Jun 8, 2009
rating: 5.11 6c+ 23 VIII- 23 E4 5c
|The upper headwall was very tricky for me. Seems to be essential to traverse low then get on the arete ASAP.|
By Adam Keifenheim
Jul 11, 2015
rating: 5.11a 6c 22 VII+ 22 E3 5c PG13
|I hate to complain about a route, and Kirk has made amazing contributions to Clear Creek, and I appreciate anybody taking the time and money and effort to develop new rock in the canyon, but the wandering nature of this route isn't necessary. After the overhanging section, the bolt line could have gone more direct and skipped the two slab traverses (which would also reduce the massive rope drag and made for more consistent climbing). The upper arete is forced as there is a 5.3 dihedral within reach. The route is also very fractured, and we had a lot of rockfall.|
From: Wherever we park!
Jul 13, 2015
|That's quite a complaint for a guy who hates to complain! Perhaps you should go up there and fix it to your liking?|
By Top Rope Hero
From: Was Estes Park, now homeless
Aug 3, 2015
rating: 5.11a/b 6c 23 VIII- 23 E3 5c
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAaaaaa... The smarmality continues!
So? Yeah...DOOO bring a few runners with you on this one; the line does wander quite a bit for just a handful of bolts. Also, my partner yesterday (Aug. 2, 2015) yanked off a chunk of mountain about the size of a prenatal horse. So be extra careful on these lines and wear plate armor....
Still, the line is probably worth doin'--if just the once.