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By Tony B
From Around Boulder, CO
Oct 29, 2012
Got Milk? How about forearm pump? Tony leads "Alan Nelson's Bulging Belly" (5.10, X) on the Lost and Found Flatiron. Belayer is Mark Ruocco. Photo by Bill Wright, 10/06.
Nick Zmyewski wrote:
P.S. When threatened to climb with Elanor, I think I can manage to use it this weekend. It might not be the most thrilling climb, but I'll place it on something.

Anything is better than nothing.
Nick Zmyewski wrote:
I've climbed all over, but that's beside the point. I chose cassondra because she doesn't sound like a douche.

Giggle.
OK, now I like you.

Cassondra - It's the same as an old-school #3 BD. It can go for letter rate and is 'clutch' pro, not pedestrian stuff. Adventure routes are seldom based on #2 camalots for pro.
But right now, the bar is set pretty low.

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By Nick Zmyewski
From Newark, Delaware
Oct 29, 2012
the frozen topout during a winter ascent
Nice Rowdy. How'd you do that? And "not not a douche" ;) I like it.

Tony, I looked at your page and I'm jealous of how much climbing you get to do. And your ticklist is insane with trips to Asia and Mexico. I can't wait until I can get overseas to climb.

P.S. Hurricane on the East Coast, so nothing to do but post on here

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By Stich
From Colorado Springs, Colorado
Oct 29, 2012
Coffee after freezing our asses off near James Peak.
Cassondra, looking forward to your acquisition of the One True Stopper and subsequent trip report. Stay on target.

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By Colonel Mustard
From Reno, NV
Oct 29, 2012
Colonel Mustard
I'm working on my feelings of fellowship, Cassondra, don't let us down! Like Stich says, we have hopes that you can wield the stopper without it sapping your will to climb and post trip reports.

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By rogerbenton
Oct 29, 2012
Whoever this guy is, he's just plain irresponsible.
DUDE-

I clearly asked first!

which part of the current holder sitting on this thing forever and me asking for it to actually do something cool with it came off as douchey?

The rule is it goes to whoever responds first, not whoever the person who's been dragging his feet for months thinks is the nicest.

I've been sticking with this thread since the beginning and finally got first call and now I've been skipped.

WEAK.

Cassondra- In lieu of this breech of etiquette on Nick's part I would like to receive the stopper as soon as you are done.

Please use it reasonably soon, mail it out to me, post an EPIC TR and I will do the same.

In fact-

I think half the problem here is the system for choosing the next recipient. Having the stopper go to whoever responds to a TR first only ensures that it goes to the person who sits at their computer on MP the most. I think this thing should go to the people who are most psyched to climb on it. I want it next.

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By Tony B
From Around Boulder, CO
Oct 29, 2012
Got Milk? How about forearm pump? Tony leads "Alan Nelson's Bulging Belly" (5.10, X) on the Lost and Found Flatiron. Belayer is Mark Ruocco. Photo by Bill Wright, 10/06.
rogerbenton wrote:
I think half the problem here is the system for choosing the next recipient. Having the stopper go to whoever responds to a TR first only ensures that it goes to the person who sits at their computer on MP the most. I think this thing should go to the people who are most psyched to climb on it. I want it next.


I sympahize and you might have a point there. But it isn't your stopper... I forged the ring, and I wrote the rules.

There is no provision in there for how to choose who gets it when a person determines that they won't use it. You don't have a standing on the rules as they are. Nick willfully forfeited the thing 60 days early, so it seems it was his call. (EDIT: Forfeited 60 days early, mailed 90 days late)

I think he did OK. If Cossandra uses the thing and posts up, maybe she'll consider your plea. But she might decide to send you Elanor instead if you whine too much. And you don't want that.

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By rogerbenton
Oct 29, 2012
Whoever this guy is, he's just plain irresponsible.
honestly, my only reply here is a good stout "whatever".

i think it's a great idea and i'm not complaining about the original set of rules.

but it's come to pass that as is the stopper sits more often than not.

all i'm trying to do is get this thing used and off to the next person in a timely manner to make this whole idea actually work.

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By cassondra
From las vegas, NV
Oct 29, 2012
in repose
I will be happy to send it your way, Roger. Since it is the time of best weather for climbing here in S Nevada, and I get out about 3x's a week, I should be able to get it to you promptly. Your desire and enthusiasm are the requisite characteristics for acquiring the the prize, in my opinion (however measly said opinion may be.)

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By slk
From Reno, NV
Oct 29, 2012
me
Really?

You morons.

Throw that stopper into the fires of Mordor.

It's stolen your souls.

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By Nick Zmyewski
From Newark, Delaware
Oct 29, 2012
the frozen topout during a winter ascent
As Tony said, I'm passing it on earlier than I'd like. Although when I PM'd cassondra I said I'd have it in the mail by Saturday regardless of climbs or whether I use it, but I am trying to go climbing Friday. And since you need it by the 7th, its doubtful it would get to you in time. That's why I didn't choose to pass it on to you. It had nothing to do with your doucheness or lack there-of.(Edit- the douche comment was directed towards Rowdy, not you Roger. Sorry for the confusion on that.) I hope that after cassondra is done with it you get it.
P.S. It would also be nice to see it get off the East Coast, another reason why its going to cassondra.

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By sqwirll
From Las Vegas
Nov 29, 2012
Cool snow formation at the base.
I'm officially renaming this thing to the Stopping Traveler.

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By Jon Zucco
From Denver, CO
Nov 29, 2012
yaak crack Red Rock Canyon, NV
Once I can afford a Silent Partner, can I use this thing on my first solo up Mt. Thorodin? By "use", I don't mean throw in my pack and forget about.

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By Colonel Mustard
From Reno, NV
Nov 29, 2012
Colonel Mustard
I'm looking forward to the new Hobbit movie coming out next month! It will mathematically impossible to express how much better it will be than this thread has been.

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By user id
Jan 17, 2013
DUDE! Your ankles....
This thread is so Lance Armstrong.

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By NorCalNomad
From San Francisco
Jan 17, 2013
user id wrote:
This thread is so Lance Armstrong.


da fuq are you trying to say?

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By Ian Cavanaugh
Jan 17, 2013
Just moved to boulder, could use it in Eldo if anyone cares to send it this way.

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By Suqui
From asia
Jan 17, 2013
user id wrote:
This thread is so Lance Armstrong.

+1

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By Suqui
From asia
Jan 17, 2013
Tony B wrote:
The Brotherhood Of the Traveling Stopper. There are a subset of climbers who climb trad, and a subset of those who seek out adventures in obscurity. And we are the Brotherhood Of the Traveling Stopper. There are many ways to create adventure. Some by difficulty, some by circumstance, some by new territory, or by whatever means of your making that would please you. In the most recent case for me, I was 2/3 through a timed scrambling run with some friends in the flatirons. Tour De Flatirons We started at a trailhead, run up to the The Recency , down the back, up the Royal Arch, down the back, then cross country up to the Fifth Flatiron, up the South East Ridge and down the back and then back to our cars. That's a 3-4 miles of running and about 1500' of climbing in an hour, all give or take a little on distance and time I was bringing up the rear in this race with a few other guys when a hanging sling at the edge of the rock, in no manís land caught my eye. Bringing up the rear in a timed race isnít something I take seriously, but booty is. If I canít outrun my pals, I can at least out booty them! I traversed out over to the edge, panting, and started cleaning the gear. I retrieved a brand new 4í sling, a few biners, a small stopper and a threaded loop of webbing, all in near-mint condition. It was clear that this was bail gear and probably due to weather, as its position was not logical for anything other than escaping a storm. The stopper was an old-fashioned straight-sided stopper and I knew immediately that this would be the stopper to go on a journey into obscurity. I had been wondering for a week what piece of adventure gear I would launch into cyberspace, and as soon as I extracted this one, I knew. The traveling stopper shall behave somewhat like the Travelling Biner, but with slightly different rules: 1) Donít ask for it if you are not going to use it. 2) Each recipient, having requested the stopper, shall use it, post a story about how and where, preferably with a link or picture. 3) The route must be an obscure or adventure routeÖ No classics, and nothing pedestrian. There has to be a story beyond ĎI climbed Calypso and I placed it.Ē What kind of fun is that? We are looking for adventure of some sort, not a tick-list. 4) The stopper will go from climber to climber, not in any preconceived order, but to the person next responding after the previous story has been posted. 5) The poster/user shall mail it to the next recipient after they claim the prize, and post to whom they sent it and when. 6) If you have not used it and posted within 4 weeks, expect to be harassed. This ain't the "Brotherhood Of the Sittin-In-The-Closet Stopper." I already mailed it to the next guy, where the travels begin. Indeed! Let the games begin.

You can come work for me. Looks like you have a lot of free time on hands. You are not very smart to waste time like that!

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By Nick Zmyewski
From Newark, Delaware
Jan 17, 2013
the frozen topout during a winter ascent
The stopper got to cassondra about 3 weeks ago.

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By Notapplicable
Jan 17, 2013
A momentary lapse in attention...
I came over from RC to check things out because you folks are always talking shit about how this is where the real climbers hang out. When I saw this thread I thought "sweet, these guys & gals are getting it done"... Two TRs in a year? Pathetic!

Maybe you should pass the baton our way and that poor stopper will finally see the action she deserves.

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By Unassigned User
Jan 17, 2013
Notapplicable wrote:
I came over to check things out because you folks are always talking shit about how this is where the real climbers hang out. When I saw this thread I thought "sweet, these guys & gals are getting it done"... Two TRs in a year? Pathetic! Maybe you should pass the baton our way and that poor stopper will finally see the action she deserves.


Dude I need to know what the story is on your picture. That is a wicked qwesome picture, what did they bolt back togther?

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By Mostafa
From Alameda
Jan 17, 2013
Cujo 5.11d Red Rocks
The stopper got some action in red rocks cassondra and I took it up a climb. She is going to write a trip report.

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By rogerbenton
Jan 17, 2013
Whoever this guy is, he's just plain irresponsible.
I CALL NEXT!!!

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By Tony B
From Around Boulder, CO
Jan 18, 2013
Got Milk? How about forearm pump? Tony leads "Alan Nelson's Bulging Belly" (5.10, X) on the Lost and Found Flatiron. Belayer is Mark Ruocco. Photo by Bill Wright, 10/06.
Mostafa wrote:
The stopper got some action in red rocks cassondra and I took it up a climb. She is going to write a trip report.

OMG. After 15 months it sounds like someone who got the stopper also got the idea...
Looking forward to it!

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By Tony B
From Around Boulder, CO
Jan 23, 2013
Got Milk? How about forearm pump? Tony leads "Alan Nelson's Bulging Belly" (5.10, X) on the Lost and Found Flatiron. Belayer is Mark Ruocco. Photo by Bill Wright, 10/06.
But have my building doubts...

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