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Nov 7, 2012
just buy a mammut or edelrid haness ... they are usually reasonably priced anyways

its that simple ;)
bearbreeder
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For $2.95, that Wild Country T.I.P.P. looks like just the ticket. I hadn't even considered something like that before, but it might be a good addition to a harness, particularly one that you might walk in a lot. Patrick Carey
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Go for the Edelrid Jay harness. I bought one recently to replace my Petzl Adjama harness, which was having durability issues. It is more comfortable, considerably cheaper, just as packable, and I think has even better gear loops than the good ones on the Petzl harness. Oh, and it has the plastic thing. I'm pretty psyched on it. Weston L
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I decided to try out the "insta-morph" plastic and here are some picture in case anyone was interesting in doing something similar. Danger-Russ Gordon
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Melting the plastic
Melting the plastic
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Before (1)
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Let me know if you have questions, or if you'd like more pictures. Danger-Russ Gordon
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Im gonna take it to the gym tonight and whip on it, I'll return and report with any findings/conclusions/things I would have done differently. Danger-Russ Gordon
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Yeah, not going to do that. My old Petzl harness wore out at the tie in point as well. I threw the fucking thing in the trash. Stich
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Stich wrote:
Yeah, not going to do that. My old Petzl harness wore out at the tie in point as well. I threw the fucking thing in the trash.


Hey Stich, thats fair enough, I can see a good argument for that, actually I bought a BD chaos harness a few weeks ago to replace this sama, this was more of a fun experiment (cause I like feeling like a scientist in my kitchen)

Cheers
Danger-Russ Gordon
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Mammut and Edelrid share the patent- you wont be seeing it on other harnesses anytime soon.

Do you happen to know the melting point on the plastic you used? Is it anywhere near nylons? That'd be my biggest concern with pouring hot, liquid plastic onto a harness.
John Wilder
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That harness is past it's service life. Ray Pinpillage
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I just hope Dangerboy ain't gonna cook up eggs in that cast iron skillet now. Will S
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hey John, the plastic comes in pellet form, which you pour into hot water between 140-150 F, so not that close to boiling, it then melts into one malleable lumb, which once you take it out of the water you can handle with your bare hands (assuming you did not let the water get to hot) so I assume its not hot enough to do damage to the harness if its cool enough to touch comfortably? but I'm no chemist. Danger-Russ Gordon
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Will S wrote:
I just hope Dangerboy ain't gonna cook up eggs in that cast iron skillet now.


Who's comin over for breakfast! :) its actually an old candle holder its about 3 inches wide, just hard to see the scale in the photo.
Danger-Russ Gordon
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I have the Edelrid Smith harness and absolutely love it.

So far the I love having the plastic piece (tie in protector), it actually keeps the lower tie in point open so its even easier to tie in along with making it last longer.


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It also has the laminate technology so its basically a Arc'teryx knockoff & it's super comfortable, plus I couldn't beat the price.

I'd say just get a new harness if you want the piece, Mammut & Edelrid aren't too expensive anyway and they make good products so why not upgrade.
Eddie2170
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Nov 22, 2012
Great quality rock on this one!
the mad rock neptune i think had a rubber piece surrounding the top tie in point that wore out after a few months but protected that part of the tie in for awhile...

Mark Mueller
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I have a friend that wrapped his abraded Adjama tie in point with climbing tape, seems to be working pretty well for him. Jeremy Bauman
From Lakewood, CO
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Danger-Russ Gordon wrote:
hey John, the plastic comes in pellet form, which you pour into hot water between 140-150 F, so not that close to boiling, it then melts into one malleable lumb, which once you take it out of the water you can handle with your bare hands (assuming you did not let the water get to hot) so I assume its not hot enough to do damage to the harness if its cool enough to touch comfortably? but I'm no chemist.


at those temps, it should be fine. Nylons melting point is like 600 degrees or something.
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Myself placing a a blue/yellow offset MC to protec...
John Wilder wrote:
at those temps, it should be fine. Nylons melting point is like 600 degrees or something.



Glass transition temp for nylon is ~50 C MP is ~250C

Deformities can happen well below MP temperatures in plastics
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