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By NorCalNomad
From San Francisco
Sep 13, 2012

Ok good def don't want that warm. Find it interesting how much cheaper the Micro Puff is from the Nano Puff. wouldn't think the small change in the face and lining fabric would account for that much change.


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By bearbreeder
Sep 14, 2012

www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thr>>>

go here for actual scientific measurements on the clo values of various jackets/materials ... although the tech talk it is instructive ... at the end of the day any good ~100-133 g/m is likely what yr looking for ...

you can find a whole bunch of em on sale usually ...


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By NorCalNomad
From San Francisco
Sep 14, 2012

Fucking sweet. This is the kinda info I like, espcially since I'm taking a fabric and fiber technology class right now.


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By Michael C
From New Jersey
Sep 18, 2012
Mt Minsi, PA

I have the Nano Puff Pullover - same thing as the hoody, but minus the hoody. It's really light, very warm, and stuffs into itself. You could easily keep this in one of your pants pockets.

My first time Ice Climbing I had borrowed a Mountain Hardware Compressor Hoody from my Guide. It's just like the Nano in terms of weight and warmth, but I'm not sure if it stuffs into itself. But it would easily ball up and fit into a tiny stuff sack.

For me it came down to the Nano Puff being on sale.


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By Stephan Doyle
Sep 18, 2012

Michael C wrote:
My first time Ice Climbing I had borrowed a Mountain Hardware Compressor Hoody from my Guide. It's just like the Nano in terms of weight and warmth, but I'm not sure if it stuffs into itself. But it would easily ball up and fit into a tiny stuff sack.


Incorrect. The MH Compressor uses 100g insulation, while the Nano uses 60g. Totally different in terms of warmth.


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By Ray Pinpillage
From West Egg
Sep 18, 2012
Cleo's Needle

Stephan Doyle wrote:
Incorrect. The MH Compressor uses 100g insulation, while the Nano uses 60g. Totally different in terms of warmth.



Sorry Stephen but he's right.


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By Scott McMahon
From Boulder, CO
Sep 18, 2012
Bocan

Well again it comes down to what you want to do with the jacket. Of course I use this excuse to be a gear whore, but I have different jackets for different purposes.

Synthetic only I use a Mammut Stratus for ice, alpine is the windstopper OR Chaos and I have a atom LT for a layering layer that has a wide range on the warmer side of temps. I won't pack my Mammut for long days because it's awesomely huge, but I also probably wouldn't go ice climbing with the Atom LT.

Once you have a solid idea of what it's for then go for fit, how cold / warm blooded you are and finally price.

That being said you got pretty much the best recommendations in this thread.


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By Brian Abram
From Columbia, SC
Sep 18, 2012
Brian Abram, leading pitch 2 of Dinkus Dog on the South Side of Looking Glass.  Kyle Sox is belaying.

www.rei.com/product/833908/mountain-hardwear-gravitor-jacket>>>

If you happen to wear an XL or XXL, this is an awesome deal on an awesome jacket. The 2011 MHW Gravitor has 80g Thermic Micro insulation under a Dry Q Elite shell (it's not Conduit, in spite of the REI specs. That is an earlier year's info). My medium 2011 version weighs 22.5 ounces on my scale. The 2012 Gravitor ($350) is apparently significantly heavier at 28 ounces. Mountain Hardwear does have a 2012 jacket with Dry Q Elite and 80g Thermic Micro at the weight of last year's Gravitor that they are calling the Carillion ($400) for this year.

www.ems.com/product/index.jsp?productId=11279546

There is a medium for a little bit more money.

One way to tell if you are getting the 2011 version with Dry Q Elite and not an earlier Conduit version is the price. The original retail price for the 2011 version is $275. Prior versions sold for I think $250. You cannot trust the written descriptions and specs listed on sites due to the multiple changes in the jacket over the past couple years.

Here is what the 2010 Conduit version looked like: www.rei.com/product/816994/mountain-hardwear-gravitor-jacket>>>


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