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YDS: 5.8 French: 5b Ewbanks: 16 UIAA: VI- ZA: 15 British: HVS 4c R

Type:  Trad, 3 pitches, 300'
Consensus:  YDS: 5.8 French: 5b Ewbanks: 16 UIAA: VI- ZA: 15 British: HVS 4c [details]
FA: Pat Callis & Larry Reynolds, April 1966
Season: Spring - Fall
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Submitted By: C Miller on Jan 20, 2006

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Jean romps up the first pitch of Surprise


This was the first climb established on the Weeping Wall and was so named because the first ascent party got a "surprise" when the blank-looking face went at such a moderate grade. A good introduction to the wall although most parties elect to do the direct finish in lieu of the somewhat loose original third pitch.

P1) Start in the middle of the wall and climb a short right-facing corner system (thin pro), then continue up and left on unprotected but very easy face (5.0) to a 3 bolt anchor. P2) Up and right along a ramp/flake system to reach a bolt (5.8) and then into an easy right-facing corner atop which is a 3 bolt belay. P3) Up a crack which turns into a flared chimney higher. Belay from gear at the top and descend via Bye Gully.


bolts, gear to 3"

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Pitch 2 of Surprise...
Pitch 2 of Surprise...
Jean gettin' done with second pitch of Surprise.
Jean gettin' done with second pitch of Surprise.

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By Shawn Mitchell
From: Broomfield
Jul 18, 2009

I remembered from boyhood this climb was runout, but I didn't remember how runout. After the 20 foot p.1 crack, you go all the (easy) way to the belay. But the shockers was crux p.2. After the short traverse to the one bolt--and not so modern a bolt--you do the crux, then go the rest of the way, with a bit of 5.6 at the top, to the belay.

Easy stuff, but you better be comfortable on friction WAY out from gear.
By UpRope
Oct 26, 2010

Like nearly everything else on the Weeping Wall this route is all about the correct foot sequence. The runout section makes one reconsider those sequences with a little more forethought and rehearsal.Great warm-up for 10K Gold.Taken together these two runouts make for a great day of face climbing.
By RAZORsharp
From: Carlsbad CA
Apr 23, 2012

This is a fun climb. P1 5.0 runout has a bolt smack dab in the middle, for anyone who wants to clip it.. leave it unclipped for the full experience ;). On P3 I opted to skip the flared chimney and use the right thin flake. Some parts are hollow, loose, and BIG, however it eats gear and finishes just well.
By Jim Dover
From: Idyllwild, Ca
Jul 12, 2012

On pitches 2 and 3 I found pin scars that accept a #2 Offset Mastercam. Higher up on pitch 3--if you stay out of the gulley and do the right crack--some smaller gear works well--0.4s, 0.5s and 0.75s mostly. There are few places for larger stuff but the climbing is really positive so running it out isn't that scary.

Oh, and saw a big ass black rattler in the bushes at the base today. Yikes!!!
By Robert Hall
Aug 26, 2014
rating: 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c R

Gee...and I thought the climb was named for the "Surprise" move you find off of the big rest step after doing the 5.8 sequence on the old bolt. Maybe it's "only" 5.6 or 5.7, but it was certainly the crux for me.
I did this 2 yrs ago, and even then the (original?) bolt was pretty "manky", even if it is 3/8". It should be replaced.
By Tradoholic
Oct 28, 2014

I linked 1 and 2 with a 70m no problem. Only the one distinct crux on P2 was 5.8.
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