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By Steve Lee
Jun 27, 2012
How can we clean the graffiti on Boulder 1?

Some dbags recently tagged the east side of Boulder 1 with green spray paint and it looks terrible..

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By Guy Keesee
From Moorpark, CA
Jun 27, 2012
Big Boulder, just a bit downhill from Temple of Ka...
Steve... yes it's ugly and stupid, but please do not try and clean it. Doing so only leads to a worse condition.

Some do gooders one time painted over an entire boulder. Now it's slick as snot from the thick brown paint.

and one time other folks had a hydro blaster.... that took off the hard outer surface and melted the holds away.... the holds never return.

and fresh clean stone only invites more tagging.

Sucks for sure, but at least it's a nice lime green paint, it will fade away quickly.

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By BrendanC
From Sherman oaks, ca
Jun 27, 2012
Guy is 100% correct. Our rock shoes will clean it off soon enough. Check out some of the old pics of the sierra club dudes on Boulder one in jeans and boots. There was way more graffiti on it back then.

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By Umph!
Jun 27, 2012
Steve Lee wrote:
Some dbags recently tagged the east side of Boulder 1 with green spray paint and it looks terrible..



Green?? Just go over it with a color you'd prefer. . . .

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By Fat Dad
From Los Angeles, CA
Jun 27, 2012
Although a history could probably be written about the layers of paint at Stoney, I thought that brown paint came about when they used it for a Steven Seagal movie.

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By Guy Keesee
From Moorpark, CA
Jun 27, 2012
Big Boulder, just a bit downhill from Temple of Ka...
Dad... true that, and many many more times.

The latest was for the Memorial for the people who died in the head-on collision on the tracks.

Go down to the trackside boulders, you can't climb on them anymore........ unless your working on Glacer Polish skills.

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By Steve Lee
Jun 28, 2012
Thanks for the advice, Guy. I remember that brown paint on Carousel boulder, definitely slick and not really climbable anymore. See you all around

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By Morgan Patterson
Administrator
Jun 28, 2012
Stoked...
Funny running into this one today. . . i was out last night at one of our local crags here in CT trying a new product on graffiti at the base of our crag.

All I can say is WOW!!!!! I had no idea how easy cleaning graffiti would be with the right stuff...taginator.com/nnewsite/taginat...

The shit is expensive but literally spray it on, give it like 20 minutes and then wash it off... instrux say power wash it off. Well i didn't have that so I took my drinking water and spit/sprayed in on the wall last night and the shit just washed off. NO JOKE. Here's some photos....

BEFORE

AFTER




Note: This was only using 1/2 of a 32oz bottle of Taginator and I only had 3/4 gallon of water to drink and I used it all to wash off what I could spitting on the wall (yup)... so with an actual 4 gallon back pack sprayer ($100) all of it could easily be removed. You can see the streaks from is washing off cause I ran out of water and couldn't rinse fully.

No I don't work for this company - I volunteer as the CT Regional Coordinator with the Access Fund and this stuff is new to us and is AMAZING!

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By M Irving
Jun 29, 2012
Nice! I wonder how toxic that stuff is? Last weekend in Eaton Canyon here in Los Angeles there was a large group of people trying to clean up the graffiti in the lower canyon with wire brushes...uh, no way, no how. The amount of brushing required to eradicate even the smallest amount of paint was just overwhelming, rendering the whole project impossible considering the vast amount of graffiti currently defiling the area..

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By Rob Gordon
From Hollywood, CA
Jun 29, 2012
Tough Mantle Problem.  Haven't sent yet...
The worst part of the graffiti at Stoney is the poor penmanship and spelling. I can never tell what it says.

One time I ran into some young climbers using a rock to scratch their names into Sculptures. I just shook my head at them till they sheepishly apologized.

Broken glass everywhere, wannabe gangstas harassing young girls and throwing rocks off the summit till the LAPD chopper megaphones them to stop, graffiti, rescuing people who solo up the toprope walls and get stuck... A month ago I just about got into a fight with some guy coaxing a second child up Turlock's face without a rope and a non-existent spot (I had already had to go up and pluck his girlfriend's other kid from being stuck up there). The second little girl looked ready to fall from the top while he didn't even tell her how to get back on route... Still my favorite place in LA.

Anyone else got good crazy happenings at Stoney stories?

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By Morgan Patterson
Administrator
Jun 29, 2012
Stoked...
The stuff is def corrosive...and you need a glove and eyewear if you are going to be working with your hands and sponges and not a sprayer would be my call. When I got some on my hands and tried to wash it off it felt slippery like bleach when u try to wash off bleach. The stuff really was amazing... for like at least a year folks have been trying to wire brush off the paint and wash with various cleaners... this is the only one that's worked to this degree. Melt that shit right off the rock and wash it away... it's a face melting good time.

Technical Specifications for Taginator® graffiti removers
Form: Liquid
Viscosity: Slight
Color: Dark Umber
Odor: Fresh & Clean Scented
Biodegradable: Yes
Water Solubility: Emulsifiable
V.O.C. Content: <30% by WT.
Flammable: NO
Carcinogens: NONE
Coverage per Gallon: 175 to 250 sq. ft (or more)
Phosphates: None
EPA Hazardous Air Pollutants (HAPS) List: No
EPA Extremely Hazardous Substance List: No
EPA Toxic Release Inventory List: No
California Proposition 65 List: No
Clean Water Act Pollutant List: No

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By wivanoff
Jun 29, 2012
High Exposure
Morgan Patterson wrote:
Funny running into this one today. . . i was out last night at one of our local crags here in CT


I don't recognize that cliff. Can you tell me where in CT it is?

Thanks!

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By Morgan Patterson
Administrator
Jun 29, 2012
Stoked...
mountainproject.com/v/great-le...

Great Ledge
Redding, CT

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By Steve Powell
From Alhambra, California
Jul 9, 2012
Fat Dad wrote:
Although a history could probably be written about the layers of paint at Stoney, I thought that brown paint came about when they used it for a Steven Seagal movie.


that's what I remember hearing.

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By Chris Owen
Administrator
From La Crescenta and Big Bear Lake
Jul 14, 2012
There's more than one use for an Ice Hammer. Lake ...
yeah that green paint is a real eyesore but should probably be left alone on this particular boulder. As Guy says it'll wear off in time. A few different approaches have been attempted over the years; sand and water blasting come to mind but I attended one of these and politely told Parks and Rec that this wasn't an option because it would destroy the routes. I attended a Council Meeting years ago and submitted a report to them about how to handle this particular problem, which (in an attempt to bypass the controversy of trying to get rid of the paint somehow) my suggestion was to:

a) make the park inaccessible after hours (they posted no parking after sun down signs)
b) hire a dedicated ranger (feeble attempt to get my dream job)

About a year after that we helped the Parks and Rec experiment with over-spraying using water-based paint about the same color as the rock on the less popular boulders and front faces - this certainly took the edge off and worked well for the less extravagant paint jobs, however I voiced concerns about making the rock slick and starting an arms race.

Someone once asked me why I didn't put photos of the boulders in Urban Rock and my response was that I couldn't bear to circulate all that darned graffiti. So I just drew up the boulders in Adobe Illustrator instead. Maybe on the next edition I'll shoot photos and Photoshop the graffiti out of the images - that way I can at least claim to have cleaned up the more popular boulders in some fashion.

And so Mother Nature will take care of it on a time frame beyond our experiences.

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