Stoic Calculus 

Not a good first lead. Start them on the 5.6 to the left or the 5.7 to the right

Pretty fun climb. Not quite vertical on decent holds. Bolts could be considered a bit runout by some but there aren't any really sketchy parts.

The whole reason i give this route a three star is because when you get to the top of this route is worfth it to turn around and look at the view. it is absolutely amazing to see the canyon from the top of this route. i though the first bolt was extreamly sketchy because it was so high of ground (20 feet?) correct me if i am wrong, maybe i just skipped the first bolt. i do that sometimes

Nope, you didn't skip it. It's a pretty high first bolt. I definitely would recommend a few other leads before this one for sure- this was my third lead and I was super nervous until I got two thirds of the way up.

Agreed. It would really be great if someone put in another bolt lower on this route, especially considering it's kind of a beginner area in the canyon.

Beginners need to learn the mental game as well. If you're not comfortable with the high first bolt: stick clip.

Agree with Perin - it's a high first bolt, but not difficult climbing. Not everything should be bolted like a gym route.