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By DannyUncanny
From Vancouver
Sep 25, 2011

J.Roatch wrote:
The water note, from what I remember, should only be used on flat "ropes" like webbing. It is not as sturdy on circular rope and so should not be used.


It's also called a ring bend and is equally sturdy with circular rope. See here for it's use as a tie in knot: www.mountainproject.com/v/ring-bend-as-tie-in-knot/107108289>>>


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By Nick Russell
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From Bristol, UK
Sep 26, 2011
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Anyone heard of the zeppelin bend ? Normally neglected but a very nice knot! Should do the trick for this purpose


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By C Travis
From Fort Collins, CO
Sep 26, 2011
Uploaded for the purposes of a profile pic. Grandmother Boulders, NC (2006)

Patrick Feeney wrote:
...well i was able to get some sterling static rope for cheap and im curious the best method of connecting the two ends...


[Not trying to be a jerk]
I think this is a perfect example of when a thread already has the answers in it (see below) and is kinda done.
Of course, now that I said that I end up adding more redundant information, thus ignoring my own advice. [I am such a hypocrite]

see...
Woodchuck ATC wrote:
second the motion for you to get climbing instruction, read books, practice knots and do all this for some time LONG before you venture out to the cliffs again to set up a questionable rope anchor. I commend you for checking in here at MP for advice, but do hope you learn much more and practice it at safe ground level before trying it out on someone while climbing.


...and this...

Evan Horvath aka Evan1984 wrote:
But...with a static, you shouldn't really need to join the ends for building anchors too often. If you need to attach to a tree/rock etc, just use a bowline backed up with a fisherman's. If you need to clip into a piece, use a figure eight on a bight.

...for sound advice.

There's something we call a USSR (ultimate slingshot rig) in which a 3-wrap running bowline is tied on one side around a tree (or other variant of knot like a bowline, yes backup=good + other variant of natural anchor like a rock). The other leg of the static line is tied via clove hitch (and easily adjusted and backed-up). Then for super bomber redundancy, 2 8-on-bight knots about a foot or 2 apart for a master point. The result of your 2min of effort is a big V of an anchor out of static line that you could hang a truck from, provided your anchors are decent ;)
Alternatively, one of those legs could be gear or you could turn to cord with multiple pieces.
Of course, there are other variations too.
But this all goes back to the whole "get instruction" posts that have been made. Then you'll know how to rig what and when.

[*edit to add tip: on the static line I used for this purpose, I had about a meter/yard of tubular webbing over each leg of the static line (i.e. webbing opened so it slides over the rope like a ring on finger, or other more crude analogy) near the master point to protect the mantle from the edges of the cliff/rock*]


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By smassey
From CO
Sep 26, 2011

If you're into that whole book learning thing, there's a great illustration of this idea (as advocated by evan and c travis) in Luebben's Climbing Anchors (the red Mountaineers one). Here's an attempt at posting it.

Setting up a toprope using a static rope to rig.
Setting up a toprope using a static rope to rig.


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