Spontaneous Order 5.10a PG13
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| Type: | Sport, 4 pitches, 350 feet |
| Consensus: | 5.9 [details] |
| FA: | Matthew Fienup & Romain Wacziarg (April 2008) |
| Submitted By: | Matthew Fienup on Nov 25, 2008 |
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Description An outstanding link up that combines pitches from 4 different routes to climb the western wall of the Central Gully. All belays are positioned at spacious ledges with tremendous views. The summit is spectacular.
While the climbing is not as continuous or quite as high quality as P.I.H., the length and diversity of climbing makes this one of the single best outings in the Fortress.
Pitch 1: Footprints (5.4)
Pitch 2: Blue In Green (5.6 PG13)
Pitch 3: Choose between Magali's Arete, the right-hand variation, and
Rational Expectations, on the left (both 5.7)
Pitch 4: Seven Steps to Heaven (5.10a)
Location Climbs the right-hand (western) wall of the Central Gully. Approach as for Footprints.
There are 2 possible descents:
Option 1: Rappel the route that you climb, except rappel from the top of Blue In Green to the bottom of Snickerdoodle and then scramble to the top of Footprints (Blue In Green is over 100 feet long!!!)
Option 2: Rappel into the Right Side Gully utilizing anchors on Adaptive Expectations, Capitalism & Freedom, and Free to Choose
Protection Mostly big fat bolts. A "Fortress Rack" will help fill the gaps on pitches 2 & 3. All belays are bolted.
Marisa Fienup pulls the final few moves before rea...
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David Abzug climbs Rational Expectations as David ...
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Nicole Clancy climbs the third pitch of Spontaneou...
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Romain and Alberto enjoy the stunning exposure of ...
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Amy nears the top of the summit block on Spontaneo...
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Des starting the 2nd pitch.
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By M.Morley
Administrator
From: Sacramento, CA
Dec 24, 2009
rating: 5.8
| Describing this as a 4 pitch route is inaccurate and misleading. It is nowhere near 350 feet long, as stated in the description above. From the top of "Footprints" (which is 3rd class terrain), Spontaneous Order is easily climbed in two 100' pitches with no rope drag (this is how we did it), and could very likely be done in a single 200' pitch. With the exception of one 5.8 crux move near the top, I found no climbing harder than 5.6 on the entire route.
More discussion at New routing at "The Fortress" (Ventura). |
By Matthew Fienup
Administrator
From: Ventura, CA
Apr 7, 2010
| Readers of Mike's post should not be induced to rappel straight down the 2nd pitch (a.k.a. "Blue in Green") with a 60 m rope. If you do not rappel off the ends of your rope and take the plunge, you will need to down-climb some fifth class rock to get to the next anchor.
That pitch is over 30m long.
The two pitches above are certainly not long, but their combined length is well over 100 feet. Mike's comments are detached from reality. |
By John Knight
Jan 19, 2011
| In my opinion (not that it really matters), this is really a linkup of 4 separate routes and does not get my vote as a single, 4-pitch route. In spite of what Mike Morley says, Pitch 1 ("Footprints") is mostly 4th class with a small spot of 5th Class (maybe 5.2 but who wants to argue over whether a climb is 5.2 or 5.4). Anyway, just go out and climb all or part of this linkup. I think you'll have fun. |
By Alexander B.
From: Ojai CA
Apr 20, 2013
rating: 5.9
| I'm not really sure if the source of all the banter was sussed out or not. And I don't really care too much about route names. But when I did Spontaneous Order today it felt like a single, coherent route.
I think Spontaneous Order is probably the best route in the county to introduce people to multi-pitch climbing. |
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