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Spiders and Snakes 

Spiders and Snakes 

YDS: 5.12a French: 7a+ Ewbanks: 25 UIAA: VIII+ British: E5 6a

Type:  Sport, 1 pitch, 40'
Consensus:  YDS: 5.11c/d French: 7a Ewbanks: 24 UIAA: VIII British: E4 6a [details]
FA: Horan, 1998
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Submitted By: david goldstein on Aug 3, 2006
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This overhanging jug haul is a worthwhile way of extending your day after the main areas in Dream Canyon come into the summer sun. Quite steep, the anchors overhang the start by about 12', it is unrelenting but did not seem to me to have a defined crux. You wouldn't want to blow the second clip, but it is from good holds.

The 12a rating in Rolofson's guide seemed quite soft, even by the standards of DC; at Wild Iris this would probably be 5.10.


Follow the chalk -- as of this writing, S&S is the only route on The Spider's Den.


Six bolts.

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By Aeon Aki
Sep 3, 2007
rating: 5.11+ 7a 24 VIII E4 6a

6 bolts + 2 anchors. Granted all of the moves on this thing may be 5.10 individually, this thing adds up to an extremely pumpy route when you link them all up. Get on it!

By Brent Apgar
From: Out of the Loop
Sep 27, 2008

A very fun route and certainly very different compared to the vertical, technical climbing typical of Upper Dream.

By brain damage
May 30, 2010

This is a great climb, just super pumpy. The holds are bomber, it's a long, sustained, overhung wall.