Doug S- Oh good Lord, don't tell me this BS is rearing its ugly head again. I thought the feud has been over for awhile now. I subscribe but have not received #25 yet, nor is it on their website.

I have my opinions and I don't get Alpinist, but would like to read that article.

la la la la la la.....I am not gonna get involved in thissss.......Woo Sahhhh.....Wooooo Sahhhh....

Anyway...

Joey...let's do that man, for real. We may have to accomodate the geographically challenged...(you know who you are), but I'm down. Pick a spot.

Most of us are familiar with the T-Wall camp spot. It accomodates dirtbags, alcohol, campfire antics, and drunken night bouldering pretty well. And who can resist Shuford's ?!

Anybody else wanna weigh in here ????

Beer, climbing and camping? I'd do Tallulah or Laurel if I could tag along. Pretty please?

All this talk of climbing, beer and bbq is getting my hands sweaty...lets pick a place and time. And hopefully not in the next two weeks... Tallulah might be hot until late fall/winter. Laurel or anywhere in NC would be nice...

Oh, there is something similar to a MP beer night coming up this Tuesday. It is the ACC meeting at HARP Pub in Norcross....great beer selection, lots of climbing talk and planning. Let me know if you want details.

Haven't got my alpinist yet...but I heard LK was going to be in this issue...through the grapevine...

I'm a capable trad leader (comfortable on 9s and 10s), but don't have much multi-pitch experience. I'd really love to tag along on an Laurel Knob trip. If anyone has an open spot for a weekend LK trip, let me know.

Doug S - I'm going to make a quick reply in the hope that this thread doesn't get sidetracked.

I don't think my few posts equate to being "all over this topic".

I've got nothing but respect for the folks on either side of that controversy.

Beer night: Someone pick a time and place and I'm down...like Jeff, I need some notice...and I'll be in Utah mid-October...how about November for y'all? Or is that too far out?

Sean, have you climbed much at Tallulah?

The camping at LK is awesome...nicely secluded, but only a few minutes from groceries and restaurants...just buy your beer before you hit the NC lines...it's bone dry til Brevard.

Then, there is Chattanooga...mucho rock, mucho beer and food options...mucho tweakers.

Tallulah would be nice to camp at the campground for the amenities, or in the woods below Currahee...but then there's the variable of permit issuance, water releases, etc...

RadDog - not to hijack the thread - I just meant that you where up to speed...

Cool, I am curious about the article...

I am hesitant to say more because of the previous history - I just wanted to let the SE know we made it in Alpinist - which is nice....

Ben- been to Tallulah twice. Once to paddle where I was handed my worst butt kicking to date and once to climb. Got on some classic moderates and loved it. Fairly close to home too which is nice.

As to the Alpinist thing- the feud is over. Let's keep it that way.

So it seems like there is some interest in a MP planned shindig. Lets keep the ideas rolling here. I planted the seed but I am bad at planing.

The ideal place would have a campsite large enough to accommodate around 20(I'll probably bring some dudes that don't post on here), have easily accessible cragging so we can switch partners,goof off, and be more relaxed than say at LK were the size of the rock and the hike would require a little more commitment(but if commitment is what the people want...) and some what of a centralized location.

Ben, outside of sandrock, are there any other good spots to camp where we could easily access Jamestown, Griffin Falls, and (in quit tone of voice)... that other place?

So lets here it on these ideas:

Alabama-Lookout Mountain Area
Chattanooga-T-wall or somewhere else (less crowded) in Penitence Cooper SP
NC-Looking Glass or LK/Whitesides area
T-Gorge-I'm not sure how rowdey we could get at their campsites?

September seems short notice, I'll be in Colorado in Oct, so how does one of the first two weekends in Nov. sound?

Lets get a show of hands

Second the motion for Chattanooga, but ya'll knew that.

Having lived years of my life there and cut my teeth on that steep Sandstone, it shouldn't have been hard to figure which way I was leaning.

Somebody check those management hunt dates at Prentice Cooper. We can act like as big a bunch of idiots as we want too out there. Or there's more touristy pay camping convenient to Sunset, 20-30 minutes from T-wall, and 30-40 minutes from Fosters/Castle Rock if vandalism and tweekers are a concern for anybody. We had no problems up there last year though.

One look at you is enough to scare even the most tweakin' tweaker...mwuaahahahaha...THE MUSCLE!...where's that cattle prod when you need it?

Oh yeah Ben...I'm 150 lbs of pure intimidation.

Then again...you're either predator or prey, soooo......

But I digress....

Let's do this thing! Chattanooga has been moved and seconded...all in favor ??

Then there's the matter of which weekend. I think the ACC has a trip the second weekend which might let Jeff out, so how bout the first weekend?

Jeff...be sure to tell Gary and John, will ya?

Ok so nevermind about tellin John....LMAO

Chattanooga = TWall, Shuford's, Sunset, Las Margaritas, a huge campsite, and, let's not forget, the chossiest of chossy....Suck Creek...

The LK feature in Alpinist is a photo essay with a few words from Jonathan about his first climbing experience at Laurel back in the day. It does not discuss any past "issues" or drudge up any controversy, and that is how we wanted it. Hopefully it will just get people psyched to go climb at Laurel.

Scott Perkins

I did Pirate's Cove last weekend...kind of featured in the Alpinist article...very quality, mellow climbing up the left end of the main face. I highly recommend the route.