Son Of Great Chimney 5.11c
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| Type: | Trad |
| Consensus: | 5.11c [details] |
| FA: | Pete Clevland, onsight pounding pins, 1968 |
| Submitted By: | JJ Schlick on Aug 6, 2006 |
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Kris Gorny sending of Son of Great Chimney. Fanta...
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Description Start on the left side of the north face. Off balance moves up the arete will lead you past pins, and into the middle crux where a few big moves will take you over to the right side. Finish up the right hand arete while enjoying the view. It is true that Pete's ascent in 68 was one of the greatest single moments in DL history. Not to mention the rest of the country.
Location Hard to miss if you are looking at it from the top of Prospect point.
Protection Fixed pins, some old, some have been replaced with new reqruits lately. Wires, small cams.
Kris Gorny scoping out the gear on his send of Son...
| Kris Gorny just after the crux, on the traverse on...
| Kris Gorny scoping gear on his send of this sweet ...
| It ain't over til you're standing on top. Kris Go...
| The Therneaus and Kris Gorny planning the attack. ...
| Isaac on the rap.
| Travis cops a "rest"
| Devils Lake. Son of Great Chimney. Isaac Therneau ...
| Devils Lake. Son of Great Chimney. Arete near the ...
| Anonymous climber preparing for the worst. An ex...
| Chris Hirsch onsighting SOGC. April 09.
| Another shot of Chris Hirsch onsight of SOGC. Apr...
| Son of the Great Chimney. Isaac Therneau. Yet anot...
| Isaac Therneau on his send of Son of the Great Chi...
| Son of the Great Chimney. Isaac Therneau. May 10 '...
| Not every shot of this route is an amazing piece o...
| Butt shot #2 with gear placement beta. Stev...
| Joel leading, Chris belaying
| Joel leading
| Joel leading
| SOGC. So Classic!
| SOGC November 8, 2009
| Tom Mulholland
| near the end. November 8, 2009
| Travis on SOGC on a humid July day.
| The newlyweds, July 2010.
| Doing a lap on this uber classic on a very humid J...
| Jay Knower, On-Sight.
| Jay Knower, On-Sight.
| Jay Knower in rest mode. Mr. Andrew Burr getting t...
| Jay Knower onsighting SOGC 10/16/2010 photo: John...
| Jay Knower getting some gear in on his onsight of ...
| Jay Knower onsighting SOGC 10/16/2010 photo: John...
| Jay Knower. Photo by Andrew Burr.
| Jay and the Climbing Magazine photo that made him ...
| Greg, SOGC, onsight, sept 2011. Photo Rob de la R...
| Greg, SOGC, onsight, sept 2011. Photo Rob de la R...
| Roberto de la Riva on SOGC.
| J Knapp sending.
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| Comments on Son Of Great Chimney |
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By David A Groth From: Lacrosse Oct 25, 2006
| Give it all the stars....it is one the DL's best test piece routes. |
By Eddie Avallone From: Lewisburg, WV Nov 27, 2006
| how is this thing for pro, are the pins gone? if so, do nuts work where they were? |
By David A Groth From: Lacrosse May 5, 2007
| The gear on the route is good but spaced out in places. Most of the old pins have cams and wire placements close. Just don't pass up any good gear placements and you will be fine. I would recommend putting in a few pieces at the crux in the center of the route. Make sure you use the pin & large sideways wire placement at the start. bring extra 1" to 2" cams I think Pete's 1965 onsight lead good be one of best accomplishment at DL! |
By Trad Nanny Nov 26, 2008 rating: 5.11c
| Wow, great route, the crux had some awkward finger stacking for me. Led today grabbing handfuls of snow on the top out. I used a #0 cam at the start, wouldn't want to fall there though. Gear is spaced out so a fall would be long one but safe. Anyone have opinions on the block halfway up that you can place nuts behind? It looks solidly wedged in there, anybody seen a fall on it? Pins are still there but I don't they are needed anymore with the tiny pro we can buy in this day and age. I second Pete's on-sight as the greatest accomplishment at DL. BTW, ignore this climb if it's under 30 degrees, very shady area. |
By Kris Gorny Administrator Dec 6, 2008 rating: 5.11c PG13
| Nick -- the block does feel hollow and little iffy. I think it's ok for little falls, especially when a nut is placed at the bottom of the block. I would not risk a big fall on it -- I don't think the entire block would dislodge (not yet at least) but for the gear to pull, the block needs to move just a little. There are solid small cam placements higher up on the left but one needs to be careful with the rope (see the pic of the fall). I remember adding a #1 BD cam/long sling in the crack to the right. In any case, falling near the top is always an adventure, imho (see pic again :)). Nice lead man! Way to send it in the snow. |
By Isaac Therneau From: Rochester, MN May 15, 2009 rating: 5.11c PG13
| A benchmark climb for the grade and certainly one of the best routes at the lake. |
By Paul Dieterle From: Pasadena, CA Nov 8, 2009 rating: 5.11+
| Did it w/o pins and it felt super solid. My pro went grey alien, offset green/blue alien+number 7 BD nut in horizontal, blue alien, black mastercam, green alien, purple alien. Easily the best route I've ever been on and, though I don't claim to be a DL hardman/master, the best route at the lake in my opinion. Rhoads and I were talking about it and we both seem feel Pete's ascent is almost to the point of myth. I'm glad I was even able to do a route he did! |
By Trad Nanny Sep 21, 2010 rating: 5.11c
| Did anyone notice that Sven says this is 5.11a in the new guide! |
By John W. Knoernschild From: Wisconsin Sep 22, 2010
| I believe Son of a Great was the first .11c in the US. |
By Chris treggE Administrator From: Madison, WI Sep 22, 2010 rating: 5.11c PG13
| Not sure about the first 11c in the US, is that true? A while back I said to Gorny that I wasn't sure it was really 11c. Gorny's response was, "Maybe, maybe not. But it is a fantastic climb." Yup. To me it still does not feel 2 letters harder than Thoroughfare or Beginner's Demise, but that shouldn't detract from the amazing experience of climbing it. |
By Chris treggE Administrator From: Madison, WI Sep 23, 2010 rating: 5.11c PG13
| Wow, well that's actually pretty cool. Really I wouldn't know 11a versus 11c anyway, depends on the day I guess. Sometimes they feel hard sometimes they don't. |
By Burt Lindquist Administrator From: Madison, WI Sep 23, 2010
| Doesn't SOGC get the two extra leter grades just for its obvious intimidation factor? The whole route is quite fear inducing when looking at it standing below and sizing it up... |
By Trad Nanny Sep 23, 2010 rating: 5.11c
| C'mon, do you really think this is the same grade as Thoroughfare, Cop-Out, Beginners Demise, etc? SOGC is at least 5.11b |
By Chris treggE Administrator From: Madison, WI Sep 24, 2010 rating: 5.11c PG13
| Hmm. Forcing me to rethink eh? You're probably right Nick. I did not flash SOGC despite having good beta. |
By Tom Mulholland From: #1 Cheese Producing State! Oct 5, 2010
| Can anybody give me a better idea of where the regular SOGC and the direct split? Is it from that no-hands/sit-down ledge, or is it above that? When I led this, I finished in the center of the face, which I found easier, but also placed some pro in the arete. |
By Chris treggE Administrator From: Madison, WI Oct 5, 2010 rating: 5.11c PG13
| At the last piton. Good rest stance, clip the piton @ face level and/or any other gear you wish to place there, and reach a couple feet left and up into/onto the left-facing crack system and crank onto the face. This is maybe 12-15 feet from the top. That's my understanding anyway. |
By Trad Nanny Oct 7, 2010 rating: 5.11c
| 10d Huston? That must be your sport climbing rating then? I think clipping all those bolts has shattered your frame of reference for real climbing. |
By Remo From: Madison, WI Oct 29, 2011 rating: 5.11a
| FINALLY led this yesterday(not sure what took me so long). I used to feel it was hard 11, but I have great beta for the crux and now think 11a is a better fit. |
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