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Skirts Up Pants Down 

YDS: 5.8 French: 5b Ewbanks: 16 UIAA: VI- ZA: 15 British: HVS 4c

Type:  Sport, 1 pitch, 45'
Consensus:  YDS: 5.8 French: 5b Ewbanks: 16 UIAA: VI- ZA: 15 British: HVS 4c [details]
FA: Bolts by C Thornley
Season: All
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Submitted By: CO_Michael on Dec 2, 2009

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You can really get above it all on Skirts Up Pants...


Grey slab that has two starts (left harder). Has a belay bolt and a little exposure. Above Yappin' Chihuahua.


Upper Tier across from Sun Tower


All bolts with anchors.

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By J. Hickok
Mar 4, 2012
rating: 5.9- 5c 17 VI 16 HVS 4c

Left start 5.9 - maybe 5.8+? Just for a quick move. Didn't climb right start.
By Micah Kurtz
Jul 28, 2013

The bolts on this route are ridiculous. I led the left side entirely on gear and it protected fine. I don't understand why there were put there. I would say its easier then 5.8 also.
By JJ Schlick
From: Flagstaff, AZ
Jul 29, 2013

Micah, many, but not all the routes here were established on lead with the use of gear and hooks to drill the bolts. People were not looking for trad climbs here. They were looking for sport routes. You will probably find more satisfaction taking your rack to a trad crag.
By Darren Mabe
From: Flagstaff, AZ
Jul 29, 2013

that's awesome
By Micah Kurtz
Jul 29, 2013

I understand the pit is primarily a sport area but I couldn't help but feel like a perfectly good trad line was bolted only because it was in a sport area.
By JJ Schlick
From: Flagstaff, AZ
Jul 29, 2013

But thats exactly why it was bolted. While Flag is blessed with a lot of crags with worthy sport and trad routes on the same walls, the Pit is certainly not one of these. If this is your first encounter with such a thing, it won't be your last. Plenty of great trad climbing around, I just hate to see you so disappointed in the world.
By 1Eric Rhicard
Jul 30, 2013

Bolted crack in a mostly sport area! Climber does it all on gear. Looks like both styles win. I don't think every trad or r/x route should be bolted. However we sometimes bolt cracks on Lemmon as well. If it is an area where people rarely if ever have a rack with them we bolt it unless it is a really good trad route. I mean the kind of route people will carry a rack to climb even if it is the only trad climb there.
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