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By Doug Foust
From Henderson, Nevada
Mar 31, 2013
new toy

Way too tired to give the appropriate response to all this nonsense, so I'll keep it short:

Mark Limage has spent more time climbing in red rock and deserves the respect than all these internet forum "climbers" are giving him...try stepping away from the keyboard and actually climbing once in a while......

Yes..John Wilder is a drama queen...but his advice of "Generally speaking, if the ground at the base of the cliff is wet, the rock is probably too wet to climb. If the ground is dry, you're good to go." is valid.

If you know the nuances of red rock, there are definately exceptions and a bit of common sense goes a long way. Just becuase he speaks of rock being mud a week and a half after rain doesn't mean Mt. Wilson will fall down and we are all gonna die. That story appears to be an anomaly and really not very relevant to the discussion.

John Hedges - your argument of red rock being overcrowded is somewhat valid.....does the RRR add to that...Somewhat......but all in all, I don't think it is that big of an impact, but worth a discussion....In my experience all the tourists hiking around calico hills is a much greater impact.

'night

Doug


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By notmyname
From Stony Brook, NY
Mar 31, 2013

Doug Foust wrote:
Mark Limage has spent more time climbing in red rock and deserves the respect than all these internet forum "climbers" are giving him



Mark's the man.



Another one of his points should also be that it smells nice out in the desert when and after it rains. Rain also helps gear grow for harvesting on easy classics.


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By EricSchmidt
Mar 31, 2013

Doug Foust wrote:
Mark Limage has spent more time climbing in red rock and deserves the respect than all these internet forum "climbers" are giving him...


Maybe Mark would get respect if he showed a little...

Wow he has climbed a bunch of rocks in red rocks, what a great human being. So that automatically means we should give him respect no matter how inmmflamatory his comments are intended to be?


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By Mark Limage
Mar 31, 2013

Jeeeeeeez...this is getting weird. Perhaps a new thread would be appropriate, but maybe my post here will eliminate the need for that. Then, this thread can get back on the topic of RRR and wether one should avoid Red Rocks during the Rendezvous.

John Heyges, Thanks for your efforts at trying to get back on subject. And if you print up some bumper stickers that say "Save Red Rock - Stop the Rendezvous" I can only imagine they would soon appear on many local climber's vehicles. Ultimately, I suppose we locals are just a bunch of NIMBYs.

John Wilder, I am sorry for being a jerk and attacking your thread about climbing on wet rock. But you keep beating that drum and at the time I felt the need to point out once again, it's not that simple. I appreciate your final statement pointing out that what you had to say was a "very general piece of advice and your individual mileage may vary." Perfect. Again, I apologize for calling you out in such an adversarial style on a public forum. In the future, if I am a jerk to you, it will be to your face, in private. And I hope that you bring it right back at me. I look forward to that dialogue.

Doug, Thanks for weighing in on my behalf, but I don't want nor need anybody defending me after I post up on MP. Also Doug, there are things in my life for which I may deserve respect, but my posts on MP are typically not worthy of respect. The majority of my posts, as EricSchmidt points out, are "inmmflamatory" jabs at MP posters who are acting like they know it all when it comes to climbing issues/politics in the Red Rock.

There are many voices in the Red Rock Climbing community. Mine is just one, and a very biased one at that. In the future, I will make a genuine effort to keep my MP posts less "inmmflamatory." Enjoy the Rendezvous!




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By EricSchmidt
Mar 31, 2013

Mark Limage wrote:
blah blah blah "inmmflamatory" blah blah blah inmmflamatory." blah blah


Inflammatory... Typo, sorry I was in a rush.

Point is you were still being an over the top drama queen.


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By Thomas Beck
From Las Vegas, Nevada
Mar 31, 2013
beck on limestone

Can't help laughing at the hi-jacked thread.
back on topic: In two words...I am.

Don't anyone follow me either.


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By Zappatista
Apr 1, 2013
Book me, officer.

pacowen wrote:
mark are you really that stupid?


No, just ill-tempered as shit and getting worse with age.

I think Wilder's about seven shades of fushia past a total Liberace of Mountainproject, to coin a phrase, but FUUUUUUUCCCCK. Let the itty bitty poodle bark. That's what it's here for.

Wet Rock Police? Sheriff Diller? Authority figure paranoia much?

Dude, you need to change dealers. It's called "stress" for a reason. Marijuana in high doses over long periods of time has been known to aggravate and in some cases cause anxiety, panic attacks, and being a lurking twat on the internet, now, apparently, as well.

"Google it. No, really, Google it. Why won't you just Google it?"-'The Goods'

I'm climbing every trade route possible the whole weekend just to see if I can get someone to squawk half as much as Ol' Stress-sack as I pass while muttering in European and step on their hands. Someone better call the Rock Police, I hear they hide behind every shadow if you're burning "sherman helmsley" and "like to get wet". If you're wondering how you'll recognize me, I'll be wearing the Christian Griffith-esque Verve Thong, been trimming down for the season and looking all fashionably bony and shit. And a pink helmet. And Solutions with knee socks. And a jhericurl weave. Joking about one of those, the rest are too real, son.


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By Gokul
Apr 1, 2013
At the "summit"

Back on topic: Would it be impossible to get a campsite say, Friday afternoon? What about Friday early morning instead (around 7 am)? Other camping options? I don't need campground facilities, and will happily pitch my tent on a patch of BLM land if there's any nearby.


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By Eric-D
From Las Vegas, nv
Apr 1, 2013

Killing In The Name Of wrote:
No, just ill-tempered as shit and getting worse with age. I think Wilder's about seven shades of fushia past a total Liberace of Mountainproject, to coin a phrase, but FUUUUUUUCCCCK. Let the itty bitty poodle bark. That's what it's here for. Wet Rock Police? Sheriff Diller? Authority figure paranoia much? Dude, you need to change dealers. It's called "stress" for a reason. Marijuana in high doses over long periods of time has been known to aggravate and in some cases cause anxiety, panic attacks, and being a lurking twat on the internet, now, apparently, as well. "Google it. No, really, Google it. Why won't you just Google it?"-'The Goods' I'm climbing every trade route possible the whole weekend just to see if I can get someone to squawk half as much as Ol' Stress-sack as I pass while muttering in European and step on their hands. Someone better call the Rock Police, I hear they hide behind every shadow if you're burning "sherman helmsley" and "like to get wet". If you're wondering how you'll recognize me, I'll be wearing the Christian Griffith-esque Verve Thong, been trimming down for the season and looking all fashionably bony and shit. And a pink helmet. And Solutions with knee socks. And a jhericurl weave. Joking about one of those, the rest are too real, son.


Man you remind me so much of Dennis Miller.


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By Eric-D
From Las Vegas, nv
Apr 1, 2013

Gokul wrote:
Back on topic: Would it be impossible to get a campsite say, Friday afternoon? What about Friday early morning instead (around 7 am)? Other camping options? I don't need campground facilities, and will happily pitch my tent on a patch of BLM land if there's any nearby.


Camp Afghanistan will be full. The best camping will probably be at the RRR. There's food, beer and entertainment near by


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By Jon O'Brien
From Nevada
Apr 3, 2013

the answer to your question is, "yes", avoid the rendezvous like the plague... (... of climbers) unless you like huge crowds at almost every single spot a visitor'd want to be with large traffic jams on our little one-way loop road.


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By JeremyB
Apr 3, 2013
Me warming up at LRC.

there are some serious dicks here.


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By Rudeboy
From North Las Vegas, Nevada
Apr 3, 2013
Paiute wall scout mission, red rock nevada. March 2012.

Let me guess Jeremy, your the guy who gets to call dicks dicks and not be a dick?? Small dick. Dont avoid the rendezvous, show up to the crag first and hold your ground.


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By JeremyB
Apr 3, 2013
Me warming up at LRC.

Rudeboy wrote:
Let me guess Jeremy, your the guy who gets to call dicks dicks and not be a dick?? Small dick. Dont avoid the rendezvous, show up to the crag first and hold your ground.


And my point was just proven.


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By Rudeboy
From North Las Vegas, Nevada
Apr 4, 2013
Paiute wall scout mission, red rock nevada. March 2012.

They dont call me rudeboy for nothin! haha dont worry I act the same in person, find out.

Wheres Killis at? I need some real rib jabs.


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By Zappatista
Apr 5, 2013
Book me, officer.

Make you a deal:learn to speak and write English, you get a full-on bust-up with my usual level of panache.

You'll want to start looking up some of these words in a large book known as a "dictionary". You may also find yourself listed under "Who gives a damn WHAT you think?"

I think Jeremy might be onto something. The odd thing is, I'm getting laid, and still acting like the rest of these ass clowns. Ah, well, it has been like 2 days without, better call up somebody's sister.

Oh, and Jon, yours was clearly the best post, though Tom made me chuckle, too.


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By Rudeboy
From North Las Vegas, Nevada
Apr 5, 2013
Paiute wall scout mission, red rock nevada. March 2012.

Ah jes mi gud budy awl fillr no killr! Brow speekeng ov dickteonairies u shud luk up the werd dissreguard cuz a mutha fuc liek me iz jus werkin u in2 a tipyng frenzie

Trowlin trowls liek a tru thred killrrrrr.

So you want to be the summit of integrity? On the bottom of filth? A dichotomy.


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By Matt Kuehl
From the desert
Apr 6, 2013
Plumbers Crack

I recommend not climbing 24-48 hours after reading this forum post because it turns your brain to mush.


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By Rudeboy
From North Las Vegas, Nevada
Apr 8, 2013
Paiute wall scout mission, red rock nevada. March 2012.

Come on!!! Step out of your rind, assemble strength, focus and release.

Well im gettin tag teamed and it looks like Killis gave up. Now he'll come read this and be like "oh i just havent been on here for several days like you lurking twats, blah blah blah blah blah." Holdin on to my hate now arent ya?! Give it back!


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By Zappatista
Apr 10, 2013
Book me, officer.

No, you really just don't have anything interesting to say so far. I'm using my "talking to a five year old" protocol. Waste breath at your own discretion.

For what it's worth, I'm proud not to waste consecutive days on this nonsense whenever practical. There's a lot more to life than virtual sparring with the unwashed and mostly illiterate masses. I read that. *IN A BOOK*-


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By Brandontru
From Nevada
Apr 10, 2013

Are you not Entertained!


Gladiator
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