"Shortcut" parking for Tieranny Wall?

Hey all,

Does anyone have experience parking at the "secret spot" which cuts down the approach to the Obed proper versus parking at at the Overlook? I have only heard that there is a "far closer" place to park that the guidebook doesn't seem to mention.

From the overview map on page 21, it appears that there is a trail off Laz Hawn Rd., but I am wondering if anyone knows whether this is public/there is a dirt lot like at Doc Howard Road.

Also, if you are out at the Obed proper on Sunday, we'll be around if you need a catch.

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Can't remember the directions exactly...but you go up the hill past the overlook parking and I think take the next left, then the first left after that. You drive through a few little farms and park on the left in a big field. Hike down the road from where you parked and a trail starts on your left across from a few houses. This trail will intersect with the main trail to y-12 and tieranny, and you will bang a right at the intersection. Don't quote me on this...but from what i remember, that's what you do. I imagine on a weekend there will be cars in this field....so just look for those.

It's actually not the "secret spot." It's the old access to the Obed and Y-12. It is probably only 5-10 minutes less hiking. In fact, when on the hike from Lilly Overlook you climb back up on top of the cliff, you're pretty close to the old parking lot.

I guess the old access is still in use, although there was a big push by the park service for climbers to use the trail from the Lilly Overlook parking. The roads and trails to get there are not obvious and come close, if not straight through, private property, which is why the park built the overlook trail to avoid potential access troubles. Yes, there was a time when one could drive - with high clearance and an affinity for mud - to the top of Tierrany. That can't happen anymore.

In short, while the old access is still possible and is a tad shorter, it really isn't a good option.