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Second Thoughts 

YDS: 5.10c/d French: 6b+ Ewbanks: 21 UIAA: VII+ ZA: 21 British: E3 5b A0-1

Type:  Trad, Aid, 1 pitch, 135'
Consensus:  YDS: 5.10b French: 6a+ Ewbanks: 19 UIAA: VII- ZA: 19 British: E2 5b A0-1 [details]
FA: Zac Warren, Drake"P.H." Kroger and Roy Suggett
New Route: Yes
Season: All
Page Views: 376
Submitted By: Roy Suggett on Nov 29, 2012

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Zac on FA, Roy on belay...again.


Simple aid on runners past two bolts gets you to the crack. The crux is dealing with 120 ft. of continuous 4 in. crack.


North or left side of the slot as you go up stream on an obvious line just up off the floor of the canyon.


Shoulder length runners, a few smaller cams and all the 3s and 4s you can bring. Three bolts and slings at the top. Use TWO Ropes! Bring lots of tape!

Photos of Second Thoughts Slideshow Add Photo
Rock Climbing Photo: What a fine line!
BETA PHOTO: What a fine line!
Rock Climbing Photo: Top of route not in picture
BETA PHOTO: Top of route not in picture

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By BSU_Zac
Jan 2, 2013
rating: 5.10b 6a+ 19 VII- 19 E2 5b A0-1

This is a great route. Unfortunately it doesn't go entirely free but yarding on the bottom bolts will get you into the good stuff. Work through the tight hands section at the bottom 20' and then get ready for a route filled with perfect handstacks and kneelocks on less than vertical rock for the next 100+ feet. The stacks and locks are perfect and the angle of the rock makes it easibly accessible for the OW beginner. Enjoy, I certainly did.

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