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Jan 2, 2013
Indian Creek Climbing
If you have these boots or other Scarpa Phantoms could you please post your street shoe size and your boot size. I am trying to get an idea on size/fit.

Thanks
coop
From Glenwood Springs, CO
Joined Jan 25, 2005
550 points
Jan 2, 2013
I wear a 7.5 medium shoe. My Phantom Guides were 42 Eu, and fit
perfectly. I also have a pair of Scarpa Cerro Torre's 42 Eu, and
they fit the same--so I'm pretty sure Scarpa is solid across sizes.

With that said, I wear a size 10 or 43 1/4 Acopa JB. Go figure.

(I wear two pair of socks with the mountain boots--one very light and
a second heavier wool sock--maybe that's where some of the differences with others come in). . .
Steve Williams
From Denver, CO
Joined Jul 15, 2005
61 points
Jan 2, 2013
Middle
coop wrote:
If you have these boots or other Scarpa Phantoms could you please post your street shoe size and your boot size. I am trying to get an idea on size/fit. Thanks


Here is what I wear:
10.5 5.10 shoes (street and rock)
43 Salewa
43.5 Scarpa P-Guide
43.5 Charmoz
44 Nepal Evo
44 Trango S

The Scarpas are a little wide in the forefoot for me so I use insoles and boot boards to reduce the volume.
Ray Pinpillage
From West Egg
Joined Jul 23, 2010
130 points
Jan 2, 2013
Beagle
Pretty much always a 9.5 street shoe (10's in a few though)
I wear 42 Phantom Guides
I had Trango Primes in a 42.5

Oh yeah, the Phantom Guides RULE.
Bryan Gilmore
From Your Mama
Joined Nov 7, 2005
1,100 points
Jan 2, 2013
Cold day at Smug's
Steve William and Beagle have a pretty big difference there!

Both wear a 42 PG but one wears a 7.5 street shoe and the other wears a 9.5/10! This is why I rarely find it useful to ask what other wear in a "street shoe". So hard to fit/size boots without being able to try them on.
csproul
From Davis, CA
Joined Dec 3, 2009
218 points
Jan 2, 2013
hi
US m's 9.
Guide 41
6K 42

Love them! Just wish they were just a bit warmer! Was climbing in low single digits in the am warming to the upper teen's last week and they were a wee-bit cold.
jon jugenheimer
From Madison
Joined Apr 24, 2006
1,305 points
Jan 2, 2013
Cold day at Smug's
Bump cause I'm curious too...and also, do the Phantom Guides and the 6000's fit similarly? csproul
From Davis, CA
Joined Dec 3, 2009
218 points
Jan 2, 2013
At the matching crux
Phantom Guides are my hands-down favorite boot I've ever climbed in (out of 8). My foot is a perfect 11.5 on a Brannock Scale and I wear my PG's in a 45 1/2 (or 11 2/3) - yeah, it's bizarre sizing. Jon H
From Boulder
Joined Nov 24, 2009
98 points
Jan 2, 2013
portrait
US Men's 11
Phantom Guide 45
Chris Graham
From Bartlett, NH
Joined Jun 25, 2008
453 points
Jan 3, 2013
Cham '11
US 11.5 or a 12 depending on the shoe. 12s in almost every narrow running shoe. 45 in the Phantom guide, ultra and 6000. They are snug and I use lwt socks. 45.5 will also work. 46 is too big.

Same sizing for me in all the La Sportiva mtn boots as well.
Dane
Joined Jun 18, 2008
580 points
Jan 3, 2013
Black Dike 12/25/11
11.5 sneakers or anything else for that matter and 44 Phantom guide with a Smart wool PHD medium to light cushion sock.

So far these are the best dam boots ever. Fit like glove and climb just as well and still cozy on the approach..
APBT1976
Joined Nov 8, 2011
281 points
Jan 3, 2013
Indian Creek Climbing
Thanks everyone, I wear a 12 in most street shoes so it sounds like a 46 or maybe a 46.5 should work great.

If you use a sock liner, what brand do you recommend? I have gone away from them over the years, but would like to revisit them.
coop
From Glenwood Springs, CO
Joined Jan 25, 2005
550 points
Jan 3, 2013
I think this exercise proves that you really need to try the boots on to know for sure whether they will fit properly or not.

I wear a 10 / 10.5 in all of my street shoes and hiking boots. I fit perfectly into a 44 Trango S Evo but I needed a 44.5 in the Phantom Guide to get a proper fit.

I have a pair of Baruntse's and a pair of Spatnik's in size 44 that are just a bit too small. I think I will try to "trade them in" for a pair of Phantom 6000's in size 45? 44? we'll see.

Comparing all of the sizing from above it all doesn't add up, but whatever works is what's right.
ADKMan
From Upstate New York
Joined Jun 5, 2012
0 points
Jan 3, 2013
Cham '11
My bet is a 46 will be too big. 46.5 even worse. I'd try a 45.5. Dane
Joined Jun 18, 2008
580 points
Jan 3, 2013
Black Dike 12/25/11
I second what Dane said. I am a legit 11.5 and with a medium cushion sock i wear a 44 Phantom Guide. Anything bigger would be sloppy.. APBT1976
Joined Nov 8, 2011
281 points
Jan 5, 2013
About half way up the East Arete on Illumination R...
Do the ankles break in on these boots? Little stiffer than I was wanting Ben Beckerich
From saint helens, oregon
Joined Jun 24, 2011
267 points
Jan 5, 2013
Middle
Ben B. wrote:
Do the ankles break in on these boots? Little stiffer than I was wanting


Mine haven't yet but I haven't done a tone of walking in them. I walked a few miles yesterday and they still feel the same.
Ray Pinpillage
From West Egg
Joined Jul 23, 2010
130 points
Jan 5, 2013
Yosemite
Mens 11
Scarpa PG 45
Erik Tasker
Joined Oct 31, 2010
31 points
Jan 23, 2013
Indian Creek Climbing
If you use a sock liner, what brand do you recommend? I have gone away from them over the years, but would like to revisit them coop
From Glenwood Springs, CO
Joined Jan 25, 2005
550 points
Jan 23, 2013
Middle
No sock liners. I have a few brands and never wear them. The P-guides fit well without them. Ray Pinpillage
From West Egg
Joined Jul 23, 2010
130 points
Jan 23, 2013
KC on Fields (medium).  Photo (c) Doug Shepherd
I use Wigwam Gobi liners that I get at REI. If not too late, I wear size 12 street shoes and 45.5 Phantom Guides. 45s "fit", but give me heel blisters on long approaches. Kevin Craig
Joined Mar 20, 2002
448 points


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