RR Rendezvous Crags?
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I know that clinic venues/crags have been posted on MP in the past. Seems it may have gotten overlooked this year. So can somebody from MG, AAI or the BLM please post the 38 or 42 (or however many it is) crags that will be deprived from Jane & Joe Public this weekend. It really is a helpful little public service gesture. Please include the First Creek multi-pitch action (and any other crags/routes as well). Thanks. |
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Bump. |
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Wait, the Red Rocks Campground is closed? |
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Ah, thanks for the clarification John. Sounds like we'll probably end up staying elsewhere anyways. |
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In the past I have stayed at Boulder station casino for cheaper than the campground fee ($13/night) and they have coffee in the lobby, and lots of interesting people to look at on your way in and out . |
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Red Rock Rendezvous 2014 Crag List |
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John Wilder wrote:Thanks, Red Rock Rendezvous, for taking up every single beginners crag in the area, even the new ones not in the book. I feel like there should be a limit to what the festival can take over so that there are crags available to non-participants who are paying fees to access and recreate on public lands.+1 Are these areas "closed" to non rendezvous'rs while the RRR is there? Not that I will go within 10 miles of RR this weekend. |
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John Wilder wrote:Technically, no- but since clinics are a minimum of 10 people with an early start, they effectively shut the crags down as they get there first and get lines on everything thats popular for the entire day.Actually maximum commercial group size in the park is 12. That is the list of permitted areas not where participants will actually be each day. |
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Group size limit at any given crag is 12, including guides/athletes/instructors. |
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John Wilder wrote:Thanks, Red Rock Rendezvous, for taking up every single beginners crag in the area, even the new ones not in the book. I feel like there should be a limit to what the festival can take over so that there are crags available to non-participants who are paying fees to access and recreate on public lands.Amen! |
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NickinCO wrote:In the past I have stayed at Boulder station casino for cheaper than the campground fee ($13/night) and they have coffee in the lobby, and lots of interesting people to look at on your way in and out .Ah yes, the charming Boulder Station....lol |
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Nice delete John Wilder, no butthurt from you over not doing it again this year. |
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This much bitching and moaning about entry level climbing locales at RR during spring break? Rendezvous or no Rendezvous...Red Rock, Zion, Moab are crowded this week...think about it....spring break is one of the heaviest tourist times of the year for the US, climbers or otherwise. Great spring weather = hoards of people...does not take a genius to figure that out.
In regards to rock climbing....many large capacity destinations like Yosemite are not available....what do you think is going to happen in the desert? Simple supply and demand. Are you telling me that routes like Lotta Balls were not going to be a shit show this weekend even if the Rendezvous did not exist??? If you are guiding, get more creative...if on your own, hike longer and climb harder. It really is that simple. Not to mention that the ice routes and backcountry snow I have been on this month have been wide open as most folks who are traveling are pining for warm weather...and well, we all live it 300 days a year do we not? If you are guiding and/or have a ceiling of 5.9 and looking for fun routes, here is a sample of less traveled routes in comparison to what lines of people will be waiting for on the weekend.... Stilgar's Wild Ride better than Tunnel Vision Middle Earth better than Frigid Air Buttress Brass Balls (right side start) better than Birdland Chasing Shadows as good as Dark Shadows Requiem for a Tadpole and Sweet Thin better than Armatron Frieda's Flake better than Johnny Vegas Chicken Lips better than Black Orpheus Voodoo Doll and Black Magic better than Lotta Balls Amber as good as Wholesome Fullback Hot Fudge Thursday as good as Jubilant Song If you are not guiding, have an aversion to hiking deeper in the canyons and want to avoid crowds on the wall, sac up and climb in Zion. It is all crack, easy access and takes all the gear you want to place. We have many Indian Creek quality pitches that don't see much traffic...because there is no scene and hoopla to go with the actual climbing. If you are a sport climber and want to avoid the crowds at RR, either travel out to Utah Hills or go to the climbing gym this weekend...you won't miss much. |
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dnoB ekiM wrote: +1 Are these areas "closed" to non rendezvous'rs while the RRR is there? Not that I will go within 10 miles of RR this weekend.These areas are not closed to other climbers. Although these crags will be crowded, most guides and athletes will try hard to accommodate other climbers that want to get on routes. I hope everyone has a fun weekend no matter where they are climbing. |
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What month and year was boulder station casino $13/night or was that per person? Right the rooms range from $33-$120 night. NickinCO wrote:In the past I have stayed at Boulder station casino for cheaper than the campground fee ($13/night) and they have coffee in the lobby, and lots of interesting people to look at on your way in and out . |
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other wrote:What month and year was boulder station casino $13/night or was that per person? Right the rooms range from $33-$120 night.2012? Stayed there multiple times for that rate actually... I think I flew out there 5 or 6 times that year. Must have been a special they were running... |
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Bumpitty Bump...because it's that time of year again...for the 13th year in row. |
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John Wilder wrote:Thanks, Red Rock Rendezvous, for taking up every single beginners crag in the area, even the new ones not in the book. I feel like there should be a limit to what the festival can take over so that there are crags available to non-participants who are paying fees to access and recreate on public lands.agreed |
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Below text is copied from the Red Rock Rendezvous web site , and lists the crags they have on the menu.
These crag areas provide a wide variety of face, crack, bolted and non bolted climbing, one and multi-pitch routes, ranging from 5.3 to 5.12 plus. There WILL be something for everyone! ... Let the bitching commence. |
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The backside of the civilization crags is very loose and crunchy, hopefully all the activity this weekend will clean it up some :) |
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Friday - Sunday: Lotta Balls Wall/First Creek Slabs |