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Rover 

YDS: 5.11b French: 6c Ewbanks: 23 UIAA: VIII- ZA: 23 British: E3 5c R

   
Type:  Trad, 3 pitches, 250'
Consensus:  YDS: 5.11 French: 6c+ Ewbanks: 23 UIAA: VIII- ZA: 23 British: E4 5c [details]
FA: F.F.A: Wunsch/Erickson 1973
Fixed Hardware: 2 Belay Bolts, 1 Lead Bolt [details]
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Submitted By: Joe Collins on Jul 23, 2003

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  • Description 

    This is another excellent climb starting from the top of the Lower Ramp. If it weren't sandwiched between so many ultra-classic climbs, it might get 3 stars. Part of this route is covered under the "Roving for Love" route description.

    Begin from the top of the Lower Ramp at the start of Ruper. The climb's 2nd pitch follows the obvious arching dihedral overhead.

    P1- Climb the thin crack on the left (5.8, 2 fixed, purple, Metolius cams) or scramble more easily up to the right. Belay in a nice alcove directly below the beautiful, arching dihedral.

    P2- Climb up to the dihedral and lieback/undercling up and left (Ruper goes out right at this point), eventually reaching a nice belay ledge at the top of the dihedral. This is a beautiful pitch of 5.9 and makes a good alternate 2nd pitch to Ruper. The first two pitches can probably be linked.

    P3- Climb straight up from the belay to a left-trending crack/groove. Climb the crack and face to a decent stance under the roof (10a S). The topo for this section says "no pro", but I was able to get in a couple decent offset nuts. From the roof stance, climb right up the ramp/roof to a hidden bolt. Clip the bolt and make a funky traverse move to better holds (crux). The feet are good in this section but there isn't much in the way of hands. I shudder to think what bizarre fixed mank must have been in place on the FFA. Continue up and right to the Upper Ramp through some runout 5.9 face (watch for loose holds in here).

    There are some issues on the 3rd pitch regarding belaying up the second, especially if they aren't solid following 5.11. The climb trends up and right from the crux and there isn't much gear right after this section. Best to leave a long sling on the bolt which the second can unclip AFTER pulling the crux. I also backcleaned my last piece (the only decent gear I found between the crux and the upper ramp) and belayed from an awkward spot almost directly above the crux to minimize swing potential (there is a good nut placement here to belay the second through).

    From the upper ramp, continue on Alice in Bucketland, the Serpent, or any of the other adventure climbs that start in that area for an excellent day of climbing.

    Protection 

    Standard Eldo rack. HB offsets are useful.


    Photos of Rover Slideshow Add Photo
    Will Gorden on lower Rover.
    Will Gorden on lower Rover.
    Roger Poage at the crux on the Rover dihedral.
    Roger Poage at the crux on the Rover dihedral.
    Linking pitch 1 and 2.
    Linking pitch 1 and 2.
    Climbers on Grand Giraffe and the Rover dihedral. ...
    Climbers on Grand Giraffe and the Rover dihedral. ...
    Will Gordan on lower Rover.
    Will Gordan on lower Rover.
    Scott puzzling through the crux of Rover. Kind of ...
    Scott puzzling through the crux of Rover. Kind of ...
    Tim topping out on P2 (we linked P1-2).
    Tim topping out on P2 (we linked P1-2).

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    By Alex Hearn
    Jun 14, 2002

    Here's my new-found beta for that route. First off, stellar route, the first three pitches anyway. that's all we got to. went like this: started with the crack on the left, short, phenomenal stemming & lay backing...went up the Rover dihedral - - it was way too pretty to pass up, protected very well, and ends at bolts. Why anyone would do those as 2 separate pitches I can't understand - - they linked great as one. Then the traverse and short bit up to the tree, and an epic descent taking twice as long as the climb - - long story. I didn't use anything larger than the red (#1) Camalot, and really didn't need that...small Metolius cams (blue thru red), med. and large nuts, or medium hexes, and lots of slings. Maybe the Ruper crack down low needs big stuff, as I've read, but I just hate carrying a lot of gear, and I found that by going light, I could move fast enough that I didn't need to place a lot of pro. I wonder if all 3 could be done in one pitch with some rope drag. Anyone tried that? How about linking the 4 + 5? Can a single 60m do it?
    By Tony B
    From: Around Boulder, CO
    Jul 24, 2003
    rating: 5.11b 6c 23 VIII- 23 E3 5c R

    I thought the runout face pitch above the tower to the roof was very scary!
    By Joe Collins
    Jul 24, 2003

    Not too bad on the doo-doo factor. I didn't particularly notice anything dramatic, so its certainly not second-pitch-of-Jules-Verne caliber. We definitely heard birds squirming around inside the crack though.
    By George Bell
    From: Boulder, CO
    Apr 19, 2004

    P2 is an excellent variation for Ruper, but is significantly harder than anything on Ruper (IMHO). The "wide crack" pitch 2 on Ruper is difficult because the crack is too wide to jam, and feels insecure. However compared to the Rover Dihedral, this pitch is pretty low angle. The Rover Dihedral is steep and pumpy, tons of gear can be placed but it will pump you out. Both ways are great fun. I don't remember and bird shit when I did the Rover Dihedral about a year ago.
    By Adrian Hill
    May 26, 2004

    Almost didn't do pitch 2, following the bird "lime"comments. Turned out that there's only one hold with some poop on it - nothing excessive at all (as ofSaturday 05-22-04).I thought this was a great alternative to p2. of Ruper -definitely a little harder, but way better protected. Not as hard as it looks.I used cams from a red Alien to a blue (#3) Camalot.
    By William McGehee
    From: Choctaw, OK
    May 11, 2005

    George, I agree with you about the pumpiness of this section. However, there is a pretty nice kneebar after the first little overhang, a perfect time and position for it. This allows the sub-confident leader to rest (I actually got a drink of water, more for the stage than the need), before what I feel is the real "Business" part of this pitch. I absolutely love this pitch and would recommend it to anyone looking for practice routes to break into 5.10 in Eldo. It would likely be a 5.10 anywhere else.... ~Wm
    By William McGehee
    From: Choctaw, OK
    May 11, 2005

    P.S. The Bird-lime situation is nearly non-existant as of yesterday (5-10-05). Of course, I may not have noticed it because I was concentrating on my feet too much, but then again, maybe you won't either... ~Wm
    By Mike McKinnon
    From: Golden, CO
    Jul 25, 2005

    I did the dihedral on Sunday as an alternate to the Ruper crack. Pat "Mono Master" Finnegan dragged my ass up the dihedral. He powered through the crux with no problems flexing his prodigious pecs. The bird crap was a little problem under the dihedral and I think we intruded on some bird homes as there was quite a bit of protesting coming from inside the crack. The dihedral itself is great and not a hard .9 compared to say Green Spur or Rosy.
    By Johnny D
    From: Fort Collins, CO
    Mar 19, 2007

    Did the first two pitches of this route with Danny Inman & Schwetty as a single pitch with a 60M up to the bolted belay to bypass the opening pitches of Ruper. Pretty fun and funky climbing.
    By Paul Hunnicutt
    From: Boulder, CO
    Dec 16, 2008

    Get on it...the P2 dihedral is incredible. With footwork and body positioning you can eliminate a great deal of the pump.
    By Scott Bennett
    Mar 21, 2009
    rating: 5.11 6c+ 23 VIII- 23 E4 5c R

    Some comments on the ď3rdĒ pitch (the 11b roof pitch):
    I didnít think the 5.10 face below the roof was that runout. Thereís good gear for the first 2/3rds of it, and then a bit of a runout up to the roof, where great gear can be had. Maybe some persistent and creative nutting could eliminate even this runout.

    That said, I did think the crux roof itself was pretty spicy. You need to put long slings on the gear below the roof, so when youíre pulling the crux (which was kinda hard to figure out) youíre facing an awkward fall onto the slab below. I donít know whatís up with the bolt on this thing, it canít be clipped until after finishing the crux sequence. There is still some hard climbing after the roof, so I was definitely glad to have the bolt, but if it were further left, it might protect the crux.

    Anyways, this is a really good pitch for those feeling good on 5.11.
    -Scott