Rope popping out the side of the gri-gri 2

So I was belaying yesterday, using my Black Diamond (TM) harness with speed buckles in a cave, climber took a fall and was boinking back up to the route.
My gri-gri 2 jammed up and I looked down and saw the lowering handle was unfolded. I had an 'oh shit' moment. On inspection the rope had popped out the side of the channel and was lodged between the frame and lowering handle. It was easy to pop back into place and everything was peachy. It doesn't seem like a big deal, but it does change the angle of the cam quite a bit, and the rope is running over some thin metal edges. I'm curious if you could trash a rope this way. And most importantly, Is the climber i'm belaying GOING TO DIE????????

There's not enough room with the original grigri using a rope of recommended diameter for this to happen, so that's why I never had this happen with the original grigri.

I can't wait to see how you respond when people tell you that you did it wrong, just like you told that guy in the other thread. Haha.

Oh, and the mods should delete this due to petal being slandered.

Cwutididthere?

I've noticed that too, with my friend's grigri 2. Its pretty annoying and mildly scary when it happens.

taking from another topic..

"I might not be a genius, but I'm not the one buying used gear I don't trust."
-sfotex

"Is the climber I'm belaying GOING TO DIE??????"...Why all these questions about the gear you bought? I wonder, don't you trust the gear you're buying? I'm not a genius either, but I wouldn't be trusting a belay device I have questions about. Especially if I am concerned that by climber is GOING TO DIE!!!....

"Funny,
My BD Xenos doesn't slip either.

Am I the only one that thinks it's funny that this inflammatory thread on BD harness **FAILURE** is right next to one on how do I pull test my janky aliens I bought off fleabay (8 pages vs. one page)"
-sfotex

Maybe you should get rid of your Petzl Gri-Gri 2 and buy a BD product? How about the BD ATC or the ATC Guide? People trust those belay devices...

The literature that comes with the Gri-Gri 2 discusses this problem had you taken 30 seconds to look through it.

i don't really agree with calling it "not an issue". the device is acting in a manner that wasn't anticipated by the manufacturer. petzl calls it "inconvenient". one of the situations that they list in which it can happen is while giving slack quickly for clipping. yeah, that's gonna be pretty inconvenient all right.

i don't know about others, but the prospect of whipping and having the tensioned rope pop over that 90 degree angle with a radius of about 2mm isn't really giving me the warm fuzzies. but, i guess that's kind of just inconvenient also.

Its pretty much impossible for this to happen with proper belaying technique. You have to have the climber's side of the rope wrapped around the side / underbelly of the device during a fall.

If you hold the cam down with your thumb while paying slack, per the instructions, then it is physically impossible for this to happen.

This happened to me the other day too, when I got yanked off the ground catching a lead fall and I think the device must have gotten turned a little bit sideways. It is kind of annoying. It would have been very disconcerting to me but some one had previously warned me of this issue so I was already of the potential for it to happen.

what diameter rope was it? Seems like 9.anything might have that happen before any 10.something ropes would do it.

Keith H. North wrote:The literature that comes with the Gri-Gri 2 discusses this problem had you taken 30 seconds to look through it.

RNclimber wrote: Maybe you should get rid of your Petzl Gri-Gri 2 and buy a BD product? How about the BD ATC or the ATC Guide? People trust those belay devices...

James Otey wrote:http://www.petzl.com/en/outdoor/grigri-experience/grigri-2-info-unblocking-rope-jammed-behind-the-cam

James Otey wrote:Its pretty much impossible for this to happen with proper belaying technique. You have to have the climber's side of the rope wrapped around the side / underbelly of the device during a fall. If you hold the cam down with your thumb while paying slack, per the instructions, then it is physically impossible for this to happen.

last night i kind of realized the irony of paying $75 for an item with an "inconvenient" feature, when convenience was the main reason for purchasing it. doh!