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Jun 3, 2010
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Does anyone climb with Rock Empire cams? They are cheap, certified by the UIAA and CE, and they look nice from what I can tell. Thoughts? Joe Virtanen
From Asheville, NC
Joined May 7, 2010
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Jun 3, 2010
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They work.. Ive had a set... none failed.. the big 5 got ruined on 1 and only fall..

I now climb with BD's or Met's

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If your cheap and are willing to risk the low end safety product, these are perfect for you..

~~~ i bet if you type rock empire cams, in the search bar alot of people have asked this same question.. so research it
Luke to Zuke
From Anchorage
Joined Apr 23, 2008
316 points
Jun 3, 2010
Rock Wars, RRG, 2008
Only those Ukranian e-bay sale cams are cheaper(both in quality and price). I've got a dozen Rock Empires and they are great. Usual online source is constantly out of stock, so go direct to RI to get them. Very nice cams for the price. Woodchuck ATC
Joined Nov 29, 2007
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Jun 3, 2010
What was left of the rack when I topped out on the...
mountainproject.com/v/climbing...

this was discussed a while back. searched "rock empire" and it comes up.

edit to add: I've had a full set of Durangos for 5 years, have fallen all over them, and they still work great. The larger sizes are not as stable as the equivalent Camalots. The smallest to #2 are the money sizes. For the money, they make an excellent second set or starter set. Also, the won't break in horizontal cracks like aliens.
Jordan Ramey
From Calgary, Alberta
Joined Jun 15, 2006
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Jun 3, 2010
Me and my dog hiking in Eldo.
I have a set t0o and now that I have camalots they mostly stay at home. All in all though I think they are fine safety-wise. However they don't have as good of range, are heavier, and I miss the color coded lobes like on the camalots that make it easy to find on your rack.

I do use the smaller sizes regularly and like them better than the larger ones.

I believe these are essentially the same as trango cams.

Bottom line if you don't have the money to get camalots go for it but if you can afford the camalots they will get a lot more use and last you a while.
Brett Brotherton
From Arvada, CO
Joined Jun 29, 2008
142 points
Jun 3, 2010
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Cool, thanks a lot for the response guys. I might get one or two and just give them a test. Joe Virtanen
From Asheville, NC
Joined May 7, 2010
132 points
Jun 4, 2010
Pit BBQ
TDog wrote:
If you by low quality from foreigners..... I DON'T WANT TO HEAR YOU BITCH THAT AMERICANS DON'T HAVE JOBS or THAT THEIR CRAP BREAKS WHEN YOU DON'T NEED IT TO. UIAA standard is pretty low.


I'm foreign, so:

a. I don't give a shit about your job. If someone can make quality gear for cheaper, adapt.
b. I have no problem buying foreign gear.
c. Fuck your nationalistic bullshit.

Enjoy your day, Joe

P.S. It's "buy". Learn to speak amurrican.
Joe Virtanen
From Asheville, NC
Joined May 7, 2010
132 points
Jun 8, 2010
Me scaring years off my mom's life
Joe Virtanen wrote:
I'm foreign, so: a. I don't give a shit about your job. If someone can make quality gear for cheaper, adapt. b. I have no problem buying foreign gear. c. Fuck your nationalistic bullshit. Enjoy your day, Joe P.S. It's "buy". Learn to speak amurrican.


I was going to launch into an explanation of how free trade benefits both countries, but I don't think our friend "TDog" would understand it. Your approach made much more sense.
Austin Baird
From SLC, Utah
Joined Apr 26, 2009
101 points
Jun 8, 2010
Needles, SD
I have the robot cams, and have used the a friend's set of comets. I cannot say for certain that I have used the larger sizes, but the smaller sizes, #2 and under I have fallen all over. Took my first trad whipper on a 0.25 robot cam, and it held! I am greatful that another company like RE has come in with quality, lower priced cams. Maybe the fact that the US supplier, Neat and Cool, is always sold out says something. Kevin O'Connor
From Jacksonville, AR
Joined Jun 18, 2009
250 points
Jun 8, 2010
Top of Jah-Man Sister Superior
Try Wired bliss they are pretty cheap right now for a good product. Sunny-D
From SLC, Utah
Joined Aug 2, 2006
460 points
Jun 8, 2010
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oconnork wrote:
I have the robot cams, and have used the a friend's set of comets. I cannot say for certain that I have used the larger sizes, but the smaller sizes, #2 and under I have fallen all over. Took my first trad whipper on a 0.25 robot cam, and it held! I am greatful that another company like RE has come in with quality, lower priced cams. Maybe the fact that the US supplier, Neat and Cool, is always sold out says something.


Thanks a lot oconnor, it's hard to find people who have had a lot of experience on them.
Joe Virtanen
From Asheville, NC
Joined May 7, 2010
132 points
Jun 8, 2010
My buddy has a set of the single stem RE cams, and I can't stand them. They have poor action, the stems are super floppy, and they're a pain to place. I think it's worth your money to buy something nicer.

Edited to add: The cams I have used are the Durango's. The other models might be better.
W.S.
From Montana
Joined Oct 8, 2009
79 points
Jun 8, 2010
sock humper
The " bohemian cams" are awesome. I have an entire set. Most cams arent withouth their downfalls, like the bohemians like to walk- so an adept climber should just sling them long. These cams are a good substitution for your indian creek crack that doesnt take the perfect #2 camelot, they are cheap. They require skill to both place and remove and are the perfect cam for a climber that likes to thoughtfully place pro instead of ramming a cam home in the hopes of the second retrieving it.

And face it Ukranians are a tough bunch- they make tough cams for tough people.
chrisp
Joined Mar 17, 2006
62 points
Jun 8, 2010
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chrisp wrote:
And face it Ukranians are a tough bunch- they make tough cams for tough people.


They are Czech, not Ukranians. But as you stated, the Bohemians are good performers if a person is up to climbing with them. They aren't plug and chug, but they are solid, hold falls, fit those in between sizes, priced to move, smooth action, extendable slings...

I like them.
Lee Wilson
From Cheyenne, WY
Joined Jan 18, 2006
79 points
Jun 9, 2010
Crack Test Dummies EPC
Sunny-D wrote:
Try Wired bliss they are pretty cheap right now for a good product.


+1
Richard Fernandez
From Flagstaff, AZ
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