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Roadside Crag Closure, Why no change in status?
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By NickinCO
From colorado
Mar 21, 2014
after the hard stuff, into cruiser hands.

5.samadhi wrote:
Ro Is an easy poach



I'm sure this helps the cause...


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By NickinCO
From colorado
Mar 21, 2014
after the hard stuff, into cruiser hands.

Keithb00ne wrote:
At least forced human spade and neutering so you can weed their stupidity out of the gene pool.



I think you're taking it a bit too far, I'm a big fan of birth control in the water supply. You need a license to apply to reproduce...


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By Mark Murawski
Mar 22, 2014

(As a dog lover). I agree with NO DOGS.


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By Hobo
From Kentucky
Mar 23, 2014
Patio Roof

Many of you have discussed the reasons for the closure and you are correct.
People seem to forget that the owners graciously allowed free climbing, parking, and evening camping at one point. But disrespectful climbers have destroyed the chance to enjoy some of the best routes in the Red for future climbers.
The big problem in the Red(and PMRP) is climbers will drive to Lexington to buy $20 worth of Organic food for a day, buy a 30 rack of beer for $20+, then get pissed when owners ask for donations to help keep the crag sustainable for climbers such as them selves.
A simple $5 donation everytime you climbed at PMRP, Muir Valley, or any other privately owned crag can go a long way.

If you can't afford $5 for a day of climbing at one of the best crags in the world, you need to reevaluate your life.


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By NickinCO
From colorado
Mar 23, 2014
after the hard stuff, into cruiser hands.

Hobo wrote:
Many of you have discussed the reasons for the closure and you are correct. People seem to forget that the owners graciously allowed free climbing, parking, and evening camping at one point. But disrespectful climbers have destroyed the chance to enjoy some of the best routes in the Red for future climbers. The big problem in the Red(and PMRP) is climbers will drive to Lexington to buy $20 worth of Organic food for a day, buy a 30 rack of beer for $20+, then get pissed when owners ask for donations to help keep the crag sustainable for climbers such as them selves. A simple $5 donation everytime you climbed at PMRP, Muir Valley, or any other privately owned crag can go a long way. If you can't afford $5 for a day of climbing at one of the best crags in the world, you need to reevaluate your life.


RIGHT. I remember this being a big problem at Muir years back. overflowing and broken toilets, hundreds of people everywhere, and $50 in the donation box.


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