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Risky Business 

YDS: 5.10a French: 6a Ewbanks: 18 UIAA: VI+ ZA: 18 British: E1 5a

Type:  Trad, Sport, 25'
Consensus:  YDS: 5.10a French: 6a Ewbanks: 18 UIAA: VI+ ZA: 18 British: E1 5a [details]
FA: Art Messier
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Submitted By: Stephanie on Feb 23, 2006

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Follow the thin crack up the arete to a shallow dihedral.


2 bolts. Small nuts.

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By david baker
From: jamul, ca
Oct 27, 2006

This is the two bolt climb directly to the left of the dihedral. This is a face climb there is a thin finger crack part way up the climb. The crack will take small nuts(and you will probably need them). Continue up to second bolt and rap rings at top of climb. Without small nuts this climb is R rated
By david baker
From: jamul, ca
Jan 25, 2007

Some inconsiderate person chopped the first bolt on this climb so be careful! Several other climbs at Mission Gorge have bolt damage as well. Why would someone find the need to damage some classic routes and potentially endanger people?
By C Miller
Jan 25, 2007

My guess is that the recent route vandalism is payback for Art's bolt chopping escapades at El Cajon Mt..
By mschlocker
From: San Diego, CA
Aug 19, 2007
rating: 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a

Led it today sans the second bolt (or was it the first?). Wouldn't have minded another bolt lower down on the route but it protects with two small nut placements. I used a small BD purple and a small BD black. You get your first nut placement on solid ground, it just takes a while to build up the confidence to climb past it. Be confident on your placements and climbing skills before jumping on this one.

The friend of mine who sent me up this says that the first time he led it 6 years ago there was only one bolt. I did not see a missing one (doesn't mean it wasn't there). Maybe it is one of those phantom bolts that keeps coming and going.
By Kyle Wills
From: San Diego CA
Mar 20, 2010

If this is the route I think it is, it has definitely only the second bolt, past the crux section. I placed just the single nut in the small pod, and clipped the second bolt. Still a fun climb.
By rocky233
Mar 20, 2010

There are actually 2 very solid nut placements about 3-4 feet apart. It's recommended you use both of them.
The lower bolt was not necessary. There is enough gear for someone who knows how to trad climb. It was initially placed by Art, maybe it was removed by him.
By Josh Cameron
From: Moab, Colorado
Aug 29, 2011
rating: 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a

I agree with Rocky. If you lead this take the two nut placements since that's where the crux is. I used a #1 and a #2 Metolius nut. They were small, but bomber.

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