i used new 9/16" tubular nylon webbing.

water knot, with one of the tails wrapped around the thumb loop, to double up the material at the contact point and hopefully help spread the load.

rubber band to hold everything in place.

is this kosher or dangerous?

new sling Submitted By: rogerbenton on Apr 16, 2012

close up of water knot Submitted By: rogerbenton on Apr 16, 2012

other side of knot Submitted By: rogerbenton on Apr 16, 2012

yer gonna die

thanks

Make sure to check the water knot fairly often, generally 6-8" tail is customary, but at that point, paying to get them re-slung would probably be better anyway.

Watch the water knot tail...

That looks terrible. Just spend the money and have someone do it correctly.

send it to yates, they re-sling for a couple bucks a cam.


i think that what you did is safe. just cumbersome, heavy, and a downgrade to the original.

good rule of thumb from back in the day, tail length should = 2x knot length.

If the "loose" end of the tail is the one secured by the rubber band, you'll die less often.

The rubber band will rot eventually, but you knew that.

All so you can save $3???

sounds like i should be sending this out for a professional re-sling.
i had no idea it was only a few bucks @ yates, thanks for the advice.

I just got a bunch of aliens done at mountain tools in california. the new slings are better than the originals & the turn around time was really quick (2 weeks-ish). it was around $5 or $6 each plus shipping. Yates has the caveat on their site that says they won't resling cams over 10 years old, so you might want to check the stamp on your cam.

thanks timt!

That sling job looks fine. It's a little bulky for my taste but if you're broke it'll do the job. Just check the tails every once in a while. As an alternative to the rubber band you could hand stitch a few threads of high strength kevlar fishing line through the sling to keep it in place.

Yer gunna die, but not because that sling fails you.

That looks FINE. Just watch the tail, its a little short My entire rack looks like that. Why would I want to be without my cams for 2 weeks, and pay $5 when I can do myself for .60 cents?

Yer KNOT gonna die.

I see what you did there

id whip on that.

Check out this video from DMM. I know it's regarding dyneema slings, but hmmm.

DMM tests knotted dyneem slings

On another note I handslung my old #3 cam, and have fallen on it a few times since. I'm still here, it works but you need to keep checking the knot. So you can balance cost/convenience vs peace of mind?

I did the same thing on an old Clog cam. Taken a 10ft whip on it before, and it held. Just make sure you check the knot every time before you use it.

How about a short sewn sling and a basket hitch? You could use tape or stitch the ends together so that you don't clip only one.

TCU basket hitch Submitted By: wivanoff on May 4, 2012

The tail on that knot is TOO SHORT. Yeah, you need to check water knots, but a tail that short can be inside the knot while you're doggin' yer proj and before you notice it. Other than that the sling job is fine.

Knots on slings like that should be tightened by bodyweight bouncing. But the tail is still too short for comfort.

Although it will add even more bulk, I'd go for the extra strength and security of a double fisherman's knot. Optionally, you can tie it around both strands, pull it up against the wire loop, and so dispense with the rubber band, but that does make for a much stiffer connection.

Bomber

The basket hitch is a pretty stellar set up... try that...

Wivanoff, that sling is more expensive than having Metolius resling that at the factory.