Requirements for multi pitch tick

I understand that to tick a single pitch route I must lead it clean. What is requirement got multi pitch tick? Does one have to lead EVERY pitch for instance?

Where are these "requirements?"

Tick what you want. YOU decide what the rules are when YOU decide wehther you have or have not "done" a route. The only reason it would matter is if you're trying to prove you're better or worse than someone else, in which case you'd better make sure they have the exact same set of rules that you do.

^^ +1 personally if I lead the crux pitch I would definitely consider to have "done that route". But really in the end it is totally a personal call on whether or not you have accomplished what you say you accomplished.

Same as ChefMattThaner, if I lead the crux pitch I tick it, or I make a note that I followed the crux (or the whole thing). Like everyone said, it's your tick list so you get to write the rules. Since leading a pitch requires more skill and confidence than top roping or following, I prefer to differentiate between climbs where I led the crux and climbs where I followed.

Well I personally haven't ticked anything unless I've led it. I ticked off some mp's like Banana Peel as I had led all the pitches. Last summer I followed pitch 1-5 of Diedre and led the last one (my first ever 5.8 trad lead! :)). Last evening I traded leads on it. So have now lead pitches 1,3,5, and 6 an really want to tick it .... I'm ticking it and will just aim to lead the even numbered pitches next time

"In climbing, there are no rules, only lying". I think 'ticking' is a far looser designation than 'on sighting' or 'red pointing'; therefore, qualifiers would seem appropriate to avoid 'lying':

I 'tick' any route I got up, but I generally qualify the statement with whether I got it clean, rested on gear, or French freed sections. My multi-pitch qualifiers include what pitches I lead - definitely more satisfying to get the crux lead(s), but one sometimes losses the rock, paper, scissors contest - and if so, still a 'tick' in my personal book.

As long as I know I can do all the pitches, I tick it. So I've ticked every 5.10 multi on the proj.

Sometimes I fall, but that doesn't really fit my system, so I ignore that.

Anything I can get my butt up and back safely to have a beer is a tick in my book!

What if it was a pink-point lead? Do you still get the 'tick'?

Man, I never knew climbing had such complicated rules. I'm getting ticked-off.

Some people take this climbing thing so seriously….

NickinCO wrote:Some people take this climbing thing so seriously….

And especially the kinda dudes that participate in online climbing forums.

NickinCO wrote:Some people take this climbing thing so seriously….

What's wrong with that, again?

It's a legitimate question, and I think John Wilder answered it best. If you're swinging leads up a route (or climbing in blocks) and now actively trying to dodge the difficult pitches, then you have 'ticked' it. If you climb something big while French freeing the cruxes for speed then as long as you acknowledge that, you have also ticked it. This is a question rife with both gray areas and "common sense" rules. The answer varies with the type of route and your approach to climbing it.

The only rule you need to pay any attention to:

There's no cheating in climbing. Only liars.

I hate to break it too ya hombre but I don't think anybody eulogizes their climbing buddies by holding up their "Tick-list" at the funeral and saying "look what he did"
You're climbing someone else's adventure, it was their lead that deserves note in the history books, not your inglorious tertiary ascent.
Climb because it inspires you, climb because it relaxes you, climb because it challenges you, but for fucks sake put your ridiculous "rule book" away and get outside and enjoy it while you still have the gumption and the fitness to get off the ground.

One of the coolest things about climbing is the lack of 'official' rules. There is, however, a (mostly) agreed upon ethical framework that we work inside of. There are certainly controversies (see bolts, pitons), but it still all boils down nicely to:

The only rule you need to pay any attention to:

There's no cheating in climbing. Only liars.

That being said, pushing your limits and constantly improving as a climber can be immensely satisfying. It is impossible to gauge this improvement without working inside of some kind of framework. That is why questions like this will never stop popping up, it is human nature to want to improve, and to quantify that improvement. Climb because it inspires you, climb because it challenges you, do those things. Do not, however, feel any shame because others think that quantifying your challenges is silly. Keep asking questions like this one, build your internal framework, and use it to judge your progress (if you want to). You can't measure something without a yardstick.

Enough rambling, back to your question. You don't have to lead every pitch for it to count as a "tick" some good examples would be Beth Rodden and Tommy Caldwell's team free ascent of the Nose, as well as a team free ascent of Glass Menagerie at Looking Glass Rock by Mike and Elissa Williams. It looks like two women have climbed Freerider together in the same style as well.

climbing.com/news/free-ride…

Have fun amassing that tick list!

FoamFinger wrote:I hate to break it too ya hombre but I don't think anybody eulogizes their climbing buddies by holding up their "Tick-list" at the funeral and saying "look what he did" You're climbing someone else's adventure, it was their lead that deserves note in the history books, not your inglorious tertiary ascent. Climb because it inspires you, climb because it relaxes you, climb because it challenges you, but for fucks sake put your ridiculous "rule book" away and get outside and enjoy it while you still have the gumption and the fitness to get off the ground.

+1000

Tommy Layback wrote:"In climbing, there are no rules, only lying". I think 'ticking' is a far looser designation than 'on sighting' or 'red pointing'; therefore, qualifiers would seem appropriate to avoid 'lying': I 'tick' any route I got up, but I generally qualify the statement with whether I got it clean, rested on gear, or French freed sections. My multi-pitch qualifiers include what pitches I lead - definitely more satisfying to get the crux lead(s), but one sometimes losses the rock, paper, scissors contest - and if so, still a 'tick' in my personal book.

this.

I use that ticklist as a personal way to keep track of the routes I hopped on. Its not gonna impress anyone

Nobody cares.

Pro Tip: The only people other than you who are going to look at your ticklist are people on MP who want to call you out for not climbing as hard as them.

It's also very useful when evaluating people who use the partner finder feature of the website.

MP's ticklist feature is a useful tool and I really appreciate that it hasn't degenerated in a 8a.nu style ranking system.

It exists to be used however we find it useful, and the range of answers on this thread demonstrates that. I use it as a record, purely for myself, of how well I'm doing as a climber, as such I only tick for leads and for multi-pitch climbs if I've lead at least one pitch. This creates some upward skewing on the grade charts, and I kind of wish mp had a pitch by pitch breakdown for multi-pitch ticks, but it's not that big of a deal.

I would be very wary of using it in conjunction w/ partner finder, mostly since so many people, myself included, don't think of it that way and don't clarify what their ticks indicate.

Somewhat more annoying is free grades on classic routes. mp thinks I've done one 5.13 pitch because the guy who made the page felt the need to call it that instead of C1, which is how the vast majority of people (all but 4, ever) have done it.