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Aug 17, 2011
Stakeholders are commenting, Commission Chair Brager is being hostile to the crowd, saying she gets it and doesn't want to hear cheering or applause for comments.

Brager and Sisolak are going to be for this project. We'll have to see about the others. 3 minutes per person allowed, hundreds want to speak.
John Wilder
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How long is the floor going to be open for public comments?

Any chance of some pictures?
Peter Franzen
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Aug 17, 2011
Lots of intelligent, well thought out objections. Giunchiglani and Scow should vote against Rhodes. That leaves Collins, Brown, and Weekly.

Lots of folks still to go with their objections- by law, anyone who wants to speak is allowed 3 minutes. If all 300 speak, that's 15 hours! I'm guessing somewhere around a couple hours.

No pics- I'm strapped to an iPhone that I shouldnt even have in here.
John Wilder
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Aug 17, 2011
John Wilder wrote:
Lots of intelligent, well thought out objections. Giunchiglani and Scow should vote against Rhodes. That leaves Collins, Brown, and Weekly. Lots of folks still to go with their objections- by law, anyone who wants to speak is allowed 3 minutes. If all 300 speak, that's 15 hours! I'm guessing somewhere around a couple hours. No pics- I'm strapped to an iPhone that I shouldnt even have in here.


Thanks for the updates. Those of us who couldnt make it appreciate your ninja iPhone action.
S.Stelli
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Thanks for the blogging, John, much appreciated.

Is the BLM land swap another possible venue for our objections?
JSH
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Aug 17, 2011
Looks like Collins will vote for- he just interrupted the public to chastise us for speakig to the insanity of the project from a fiscal standpoint. That means we'll need Weekly and Brown to vote against.

The BLM land swap is a possible place of objection, but I don't believe the BLM must go through a public comment phase for a land swap. I could be wrong on that, though.

So far, three people have spoken for. The line against is literally out the doors of the commission chambers.
John Wilder
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Aug 17, 2011
Only a handful of commenters left- should see a vote soon. John Wilder
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Aug 17, 2011
This is going to be close if my impression is correct. I think Brown is against it. Weekly is the biggest unknown at this point. 5 people left.

A suprising amount of people have spoken for this development- mostly on the premise of job creation, but the forethought on what happens after has been neglected from those folks.
John Wilder
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Aug 17, 2011
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Good job Lacey! Doug Foust
From Henderson, Nevada
Joined Sep 14, 2008
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Aug 17, 2011
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And Chad! Doug Foust
From Henderson, Nevada
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Aug 17, 2011
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Rhodes lawyer is speaking now Doug Foust
From Henderson, Nevada
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Aug 17, 2011
Public comments are over- the attorney for Rhodes is speaking now and subtly threatening legal action if they dont approve this concept plan. Bastard. John Wilder
From Las Vegas, NV
Joined Feb 1, 2004
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Aug 17, 2011
County attorney is now speaking. This is NOT an approval of the project or a zone change. If the county approves this, it only approves the next step, which is a specific plan.

The attorney is saying that the county act in good faith and that the commission must act in good faith when hearing the applications. The Rhodes attorney made it clear that anything less than 7,000 homes would result in a lawsuit. The County attorney is also saying that evidence is needed to deny the application. He also says right now he does not have evidence that this is inappropriate and it sounds like he thinks he couldnt defend a lawsuit brought by Rhodes. Rhodes could well sue his way into developing this thing.

He's pretty much saying the commission has to approve this step- anything less is going to be a lawsuit.

Time to hear from the commission.
John Wilder
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Aug 17, 2011
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Wow, the precedent being set here is scary. I wonder how many other land developers are using this as a guage for their big plans elsewhere. J. Broussard
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Aug 17, 2011
Collins is voting for approval on the premise that It's better than unchecked rural development.

Brown is next up.
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We're screwed Doug Foust
From Henderson, Nevada
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Aug 17, 2011
Brown may have gone to the dark side. He's excited by the vision presented by Rhodes (basically a picture of Sedona, AZ- very pretty)- but has acknowledged the balancing act needed between right to build on private land and the interests of the community and the economic viability.

Brown is probing approval of only Rhodes property, not the concept plan which includes BLM land as well. He wants the next step to include the cost estimate from the BLM- which it apparently does anyway.

It's a high consequence vote for all of them- vote to approve, they can delay. Vote against, get sued.

Giunchigilani is next.
John Wilder
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Aug 17, 2011
Jason
John Wilder wrote:
County attorney is now speaking. This is NOT an approval of the project or a zone change. If the county approves this, it only approves the next step, which is a specific plan. The attorney is saying that the county act in good faith and that the commission must act in good faith when hearing the applications. The Rhodes attorney made it clear that anything less than 7,000 homes would result in a lawsuit. The County attorney is also saying that evidence is needed to deny the application. He also says right now he does not have evidence that this is inappropriate and it sounds like he thinks he couldnt defend a lawsuit brought by Rhodes. Rhodes could well sue his way into developing this thing. He's pretty much saying the commission has to approve this step- anything less is going to be a lawsuit. Time to hear from the commission.


This is essentially what Brager told me when she called me the other day.

Jason
Jason D. Martin
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Aug 17, 2011
Giunchigliani is talking about how specific the plan is. That it's specific enough to make a judgement today. The attorney reminds her that they must have real facts, not speculation.

Shes saying that the county should not help Rhodes with the swap- but the concept plan says that they will. The attorney agrees with guinchiglani- county should not help. She's also bringing many issues up for the attorney to further investigate.

She further says this development does not meet the county's developmental needs. Amen.

She's going to vote against. Sisolak is next- I know he's going to vote for. I'm not giving him any time- he's a bastard.
John Wilder
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Commissioner Guinchigliani is giving us hope! Doug Foust
From Henderson, Nevada
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Aug 17, 2011
Weekly is speaking now- he's questioning council about whether they can legally vote against this thing. Council is concerned that there's no hard evidence- my further thought on this is that council should get off his ass and do some research- seeing as that's his damn job.

Weekly is very concerned- he wants to vote against, but he's unsure of the legal ramifications.

Scow is up next. She's starting with the good faith concern. Let's see where this goes....
John Wilder
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Aug 17, 2011
Gazing at the Gallery
Unfortunate that she's only one voice. The rest seem too timid to put up a fight. Michael Kimm
From Las Vegas, NV
Joined Jun 9, 2007
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Aug 17, 2011
Okay- vote is coming up. My guess is they'll vote for, with Guinchigliani and maybe Weekly voting against. Scow and Brown are on the fence, but scared of the courts. Brager, Sisolak, and Collins will vote for. John Wilder
From Las Vegas, NV
Joined Feb 1, 2004
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Aug 17, 2011
We need an attorney in Nevada to help us gather evidence to fight this in court to submit to the County Attorney. Spread the word. John Wilder
From Las Vegas, NV
Joined Feb 1, 2004
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Aug 17, 2011
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John Wilder wrote:
We need an attorney in Nevada to help us gather evidence to fight this in court to submit to the County Attorney. Spread the word.


+1 our DA is giving horrible advice!
Doug Foust
From Henderson, Nevada
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