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Aug 17, 2011
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Rhodes lawyer is speaking now Doug Foust
From Henderson, Nevada
Joined Sep 14, 2008
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Aug 17, 2011
Public comments are over- the attorney for Rhodes is speaking now and subtly threatening legal action if they dont approve this concept plan. Bastard. John Wilder
From Las Vegas, NV
Joined Feb 1, 2004
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Aug 17, 2011
County attorney is now speaking. This is NOT an approval of the project or a zone change. If the county approves this, it only approves the next step, which is a specific plan.

The attorney is saying that the county act in good faith and that the commission must act in good faith when hearing the applications. The Rhodes attorney made it clear that anything less than 7,000 homes would result in a lawsuit. The County attorney is also saying that evidence is needed to deny the application. He also says right now he does not have evidence that this is inappropriate and it sounds like he thinks he couldnt defend a lawsuit brought by Rhodes. Rhodes could well sue his way into developing this thing.

He's pretty much saying the commission has to approve this step- anything less is going to be a lawsuit.

Time to hear from the commission.
John Wilder
From Las Vegas, NV
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Wow, the precedent being set here is scary. I wonder how many other land developers are using this as a guage for their big plans elsewhere. J. Broussard
From CordryCorner
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Aug 17, 2011
Collins is voting for approval on the premise that It's better than unchecked rural development.

Brown is next up.
John Wilder
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Aug 17, 2011
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We're screwed Doug Foust
From Henderson, Nevada
Joined Sep 14, 2008
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Aug 17, 2011
Brown may have gone to the dark side. He's excited by the vision presented by Rhodes (basically a picture of Sedona, AZ- very pretty)- but has acknowledged the balancing act needed between right to build on private land and the interests of the community and the economic viability.

Brown is probing approval of only Rhodes property, not the concept plan which includes BLM land as well. He wants the next step to include the cost estimate from the BLM- which it apparently does anyway.

It's a high consequence vote for all of them- vote to approve, they can delay. Vote against, get sued.

Giunchigilani is next.
John Wilder
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Aug 17, 2011
Jason
John Wilder wrote:
County attorney is now speaking. This is NOT an approval of the project or a zone change. If the county approves this, it only approves the next step, which is a specific plan. The attorney is saying that the county act in good faith and that the commission must act in good faith when hearing the applications. The Rhodes attorney made it clear that anything less than 7,000 homes would result in a lawsuit. The County attorney is also saying that evidence is needed to deny the application. He also says right now he does not have evidence that this is inappropriate and it sounds like he thinks he couldnt defend a lawsuit brought by Rhodes. Rhodes could well sue his way into developing this thing. He's pretty much saying the commission has to approve this step- anything less is going to be a lawsuit. Time to hear from the commission.


This is essentially what Brager told me when she called me the other day.

Jason
Jason D. Martin
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Aug 17, 2011
Giunchigliani is talking about how specific the plan is. That it's specific enough to make a judgement today. The attorney reminds her that they must have real facts, not speculation.

Shes saying that the county should not help Rhodes with the swap- but the concept plan says that they will. The attorney agrees with guinchiglani- county should not help. She's also bringing many issues up for the attorney to further investigate.

She further says this development does not meet the county's developmental needs. Amen.

She's going to vote against. Sisolak is next- I know he's going to vote for. I'm not giving him any time- he's a bastard.
John Wilder
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Aug 17, 2011
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Commissioner Guinchigliani is giving us hope! Doug Foust
From Henderson, Nevada
Joined Sep 14, 2008
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Aug 17, 2011
Weekly is speaking now- he's questioning council about whether they can legally vote against this thing. Council is concerned that there's no hard evidence- my further thought on this is that council should get off his ass and do some research- seeing as that's his damn job.

Weekly is very concerned- he wants to vote against, but he's unsure of the legal ramifications.

Scow is up next. She's starting with the good faith concern. Let's see where this goes....
John Wilder
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Aug 17, 2011
Gazing at the Gallery
Unfortunate that she's only one voice. The rest seem too timid to put up a fight. Michael Kimm
From Las Vegas, NV
Joined Jun 9, 2007
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Aug 17, 2011
Okay- vote is coming up. My guess is they'll vote for, with Guinchigliani and maybe Weekly voting against. Scow and Brown are on the fence, but scared of the courts. Brager, Sisolak, and Collins will vote for. John Wilder
From Las Vegas, NV
Joined Feb 1, 2004
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Aug 17, 2011
We need an attorney in Nevada to help us gather evidence to fight this in court to submit to the County Attorney. Spread the word. John Wilder
From Las Vegas, NV
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Aug 17, 2011
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John Wilder wrote:
We need an attorney in Nevada to help us gather evidence to fight this in court to submit to the County Attorney. Spread the word.


+1 our DA is giving horrible advice!
Doug Foust
From Henderson, Nevada
Joined Sep 14, 2008
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Aug 17, 2011
Jason
What's going on...? Jason D. Martin
Joined Jan 1, 2005
661 points
Aug 17, 2011
Vote to approve conceptual plan- APPROVED 5-2

more detail on result later...but they are limiting density and height, and mandating blm access prior to approval (this may be the death knell for this project- the county won't condone it and the blm may not approve without county support!)

Sorry for the delay- they went round and round for an hour on density issues.
John Wilder
From Las Vegas, NV
Joined Feb 1, 2004
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Aug 17, 2011
Any chance the access fund could provide legal assistance?

Also, should we now shift our focus to the BLM, putting pressure on them to decline land swaps as specified in the plan?

John, Doug, et al: thank you so much for the reporting!
Eric and Lucie
From Boulder, CO
Joined Oct 14, 2004
154 points
Aug 17, 2011
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We really need a lawyer that communicates with the commission members- I think the DA they are listening to is completely skewed for the development. Doug Foust
From Henderson, Nevada
Joined Sep 14, 2008
191 points
Aug 17, 2011
Take a look at this article from last year - the observation that
Assistant DA Warhola does not seem quite on the level is not a new one.


lasvegascitylife.com/articles/...
Guy
Joined Jan 1, 2007
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Aug 17, 2011
Jim Rhodes influence on the commission runs deep.

Note here how convicted former Clark County Commissioner Erin Kenny was hired by Jim Rhodes as a consultant

lvrj.com/news/8242852.html
Guy
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Aug 17, 2011
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I'm not a conspiracy theory person, but it really does seem like there are some back room dealings going on.

Warhola pretty much said that there are no arguments in "good faith" against this conceptual proposal.

I've found that a good lawyer can make arguments for both sides of an issue, he doesn't even try to make valid points against this conceptual plan.

Many good points were made today by the public and completely ignored by the commissioners.

If you read the clark county development code you can make a pretty clear case against any zoning other than it's current status of 1 home per 2 acres is not appropriate. Rhodes plan calls for 5 times that much density.
Doug Foust
From Henderson, Nevada
Joined Sep 14, 2008
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Aug 18, 2011
Climbing the umbilical cord, the bolt just to my l...
Nooooooo! Sorry been out of it for while. This is BS.

I'm not a conspiracy type person either, but if you read his proposal there are parts where it almost sounds like he is reminding them that he has done something for them or is holding something over their heads. It really sounds like he is reminding them that it has been predetermined that they are going to approve it.
Daniel_L
From Orem, UT
Joined Dec 19, 2010
16 points
Aug 18, 2011
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The work/live/play city proposed all based around education made me think of this.....watch it to the end to hear the best line:

video.search.yahoo.com/video/p...
Doug Foust
From Henderson, Nevada
Joined Sep 14, 2008
191 points
Aug 19, 2011
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If this project ever comes to fruition, I'm done living in this POS city. Doug Foust
From Henderson, Nevada
Joined Sep 14, 2008
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