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bump- the clock is ticking, just today and tomorrow left!!! John Wilder
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Emails sent. Thanks to the people who posted addresses and letter examples here - you made it much easier for me!

It's just utterly ludicrous that in the most-oversupplied area with the steepest decline in existing home prices, someone proposes more. Transaction costs and palm greasing benefit the decision-makers in the short term, then the rest of us are left holding the bag of sh|t they leave behind.
JSH
Joined Apr 3, 2007
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Aug 15, 2011
Castleton Summit Sunset
This isn't about providing housing for the populace, but about money making. Write those e-mails and let's save Red Rocks! Josh Cameron
From Moab, Colorado
Joined Nov 29, 2010
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Aug 15, 2011
The remaining time is now counted in hours.
Get those e-mails going and let's beat this thing!
Eric and Lucie
From Boulder, CO
Joined Oct 14, 2004
153 points
Aug 15, 2011
this is an email response i received:



Mr. Williams:
Thank you for your e-mail . I appreciate your concerns regarding the protection and development of the Red Rock Overlay District. As you may know, in 2003, both the State of Nevada and Clark County adopted laws preventing landowners from applying for zone changes that increased density within the Red Rock Overlay District. The applicant filed lawsuits against both the State of Nevada and Clark County alleging that these laws were in violation of the constitutional right to equal protection under law. In 2009, the Federal Court struck down the State Law as unconstitutional. In 2010, as a result of the Federal Court's decision, Clark County approved a settlement agreement allowing the applicant to apply within a permitted portion of preapproved Exception Areas within the Red Rock Overlay to be planned as a Major Project. The initial step of this Major Project is the submittal of a concept plan, which is now being considered. The Board of County Commissioners is scheduled to hear the concept plan at our August 17th meeting.

As you may know, I was elected into office several months after the Board of County Commissioners agreed to the settlement agreement. I am currently reviewing all matters related to the lawsuit and settlement agreement at this time. It seems that the Board continues to have a great amount of discretion over what is ultimately planned within the Red Rock Overlay District. I look forward to reviewing the concept plan, and encourage you and all Red Rock enthusiasts to contact my office with suggestions and comments.

Sincerely,

MARY BETH SCOW

County Commissioner - District G
beny
Joined Dec 31, 2006
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Aug 16, 2011
beny wrote:
this is an email response i received: Mr. Williams: Thank you for your e-mail . I appreciate your concerns regarding the protection and development of the Red Rock Overlay District. As you may know, in 2003, both the State of Nevada and Clark County adopted laws preventing landowners from applying for zone changes that increased density within the Red Rock Overlay District. The applicant filed lawsuits against both the State of Nevada and Clark County alleging that these laws were in violation of the constitutional right to equal protection under law. In 2009, the Federal Court struck down the State Law as unconstitutional. In 2010, as a result of the Federal Court's decision, Clark County approved a settlement agreement allowing the applicant to apply within a permitted portion of preapproved Exception Areas within the Red Rock Overlay to be planned as a Major Project. The initial step of this Major Project is the submittal of a concept plan, which is now being considered. The Board of County Commissioners is scheduled to hear the concept plan at our August 17th meeting. As you may know, I was elected into office several months after the Board of County Commissioners agreed to the settlement agreement. I am currently reviewing all matters related to the lawsuit and settlement agreement at this time. It seems that the Board continues to have a great amount of discretion over what is ultimately planned within the Red Rock Overlay District. I look forward to reviewing the concept plan, and encourage you and all Red Rock enthusiasts to contact my office with suggestions and comments. Sincerely, MARY BETH SCOW County Commissioner - District G



I got the same return, Copy and paste responses!
JPVallone
Joined Aug 25, 2004
204 points
Aug 16, 2011
Sent my opposition today thru the Access Fund's almost automated process. Super easy! If you haven't stated your opposition yet, you gotta do it. Go here: accessfund.org/c.tmL5KhNWLrH/b...

Get on it! Many thanks...
Steve Starsja
Steve Starsja
From Sterling, MA
Joined Jul 28, 2011
0 points
Aug 16, 2011
Thanks for posting that link Steve. It did make it really easy Seth Eidemiller
Joined Jun 15, 2010
0 points
 
Aug 16, 2011
Climbing at the Gallery in Red Rocks
Bump,

I just sent another email documenting more of my concerns!

Lets keep these emails going right up until the meeting.
kennoyce
From Layton, UT
Joined Aug 12, 2010
1,499 points
Aug 16, 2011
Hours left. Let's pick up the pace!!! Eric and Lucie
From Boulder, CO
Joined Oct 14, 2004
153 points
Aug 16, 2011
BUMP>>> Posted up on old FB for the 2nd time...let's beat this thing! Andy Bennett
From Tucson, AZ
Joined Mar 22, 2006
153 points
Aug 16, 2011
Relaxing in the Tuttle Creek Campground after a fu...
Email sent. Cory
From Boise, ID
Joined Mar 25, 2008
2,521 points
Aug 16, 2011
the tornado
Sent my emails as well. I love Red Rock! Marcy
From Tempe/Tuscon, AZ
Joined Oct 9, 2006
1,533 points
Aug 16, 2011
BUMP...

Super easy thru Access Fund! If you haven't stated your opposition yet, you gotta do it. Go here: accessfund.org/c.tmL5KhNWLrH/b...

I'm gonna post this once in a while til tomorrow.

Get on it! Many thanks...
Steve Starsja
Steve Starsja
From Sterling, MA
Joined Jul 28, 2011
0 points
Aug 16, 2011
one last time... Eric and Lucie
From Boulder, CO
Joined Oct 14, 2004
153 points
Aug 17, 2011
Last shot- get 'em in tonight and show up tomorrow, folks. I'll post here from the meeting once the vote is taken to let folks know what happened. John Wilder
From Las Vegas, NV
Joined Feb 1, 2004
2,377 points
 
Aug 17, 2011
Gametime BUMP! alpinglow
From city, state
Joined Mar 12, 2001
77 points
Aug 17, 2011
Strong turnout- the chambers are full of red shirts and people against this project! 11 mins till mtg- this project is listed at midway, but will likely be pushed to the end to accommodate public comment. Anticipate a vote somewhere near noon. John Wilder
From Las Vegas, NV
Joined Feb 1, 2004
2,377 points
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Aug 17, 2011
Belay
That's great!

Any chance you can continue to post updates in this thread as things progress?
Peter Franzen
From Phoenix, AZ
Joined Jan 1, 2001
4,021 points
Aug 17, 2011
Cobra Kai
Thanks for the live reporting John. I wish this red could be there as well. Red
From Arizona
Joined Sep 11, 2008
1,322 points
Aug 17, 2011
All mixed up pitch 3
I recently heard back from one of the commissioners who is against it. Write them all but specifically write this one too asking for other ways to make an impact with the others.
Here was the reply:
Thank you for your email. On behalf of Commissioner Giunchigliani:
As you know, I voted against allowing the development last year and my concerns have not changed.

Regards,
Marcie Whelan
Executive Assistant to
Commissioner Giunchigliani

PS: these were the emails that I wrote to. Hopefully they are correct:
ccdista@clarkcountynv.gov,
ccdistb@clarkcountynv.gov,
ccdistc@clarkcountynv.gov,
ccdistd@clarkcountynv.gov,
ccdiste@clarkcountynv.gov,
ccdistf@clarkcountynv.gov,
ccdistg@clarkcountynv.gov
Brian Ladd
From Bend, Oregon
Joined Nov 12, 2003
22 points
Aug 17, 2011
Item has come up for discussion. Chambers are FULL of those opposed.

Staff has recommended approval of this project- dependent on two concerns. 1) no industrial use. 2) no commercial tours. 3) timing of project is a concern, as it is dependent on the blm land swap for the commercial portions of the project- if the swap doesn't happen, no approval. Staff also recommends fewer than 7,200 homes be built.

Public comment is about to begin.
John Wilder
From Las Vegas, NV
Joined Feb 1, 2004
2,377 points
Aug 17, 2011
new toy
Room is packed and another 100 people in hallway Doug Foust
From Henderson, Nevada
Joined Sep 14, 2008
191 points
Aug 17, 2011
Doug Foust wrote:
Room is packed and another 100 people in hallway


Do you see any riot police nearby, in case this thing goes sour?
S.Stelli
From Colorado Springs, CO
Joined Dec 21, 2009
171 points
 
Aug 17, 2011
Economic analyst is up- it's a $2.5 billion project over 20 years. This is psychotic- and even more insane than I had guessed- sure the jobs and economic impact are theoretically large, but whether it's appropriate or even likely to occur is the question.

Okay, real public comment time. This should be interesting.
John Wilder
From Las Vegas, NV
Joined Feb 1, 2004
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