Rawhide 

This is not an attempt to stir the flames of agitation any more than they have been, and what follows is only a minor detail that is probably best solved between climbers. The issue concerns defining when uncovering holds falls into the unacceptable domain. At issue is the climb Rawhide that was originally freed at 5.11c. Subsequently, a bush was dug out from beside the crux, and this uncovered a good edge that allowed the route to be done at 5.10c. As 5.10c it is really fun, and no one is going miss another Jamesia americana bush. However, the line was done originally by simply clipping backsome branches and doing the obvious move. So, is this a big deal? No, of course not. But if the line can be done with some of the natural vegetation intact, is the better course of action simply to do the harder move and leave the bush alone? I believe that removing the bush and uncovering a new edge only served to make the line easier since the bush was not particularly annoying.

To start on this climb, is one supposed to climb up the wide groove, do the wild stem (which is not bad for tall people!) to get to the base of the crux move, OR is the start just to the left, climbing the thin, chalked up, difficult looking crack? We did the former, seemed much easier than doing that crack...PS agree with the 10c rating with the edge exposed from the bush removal.

I believe a key crux hold (left hand, downward jutting hold) broke off and made the crux moves harder. Or I might just suck. Either way, the crux seemed much harder than the 1st 2 times I've done the route. If you're climbing this route for the crux, you're in it for the wrong reason as the chimney and ensuing moves are really nice.

If this is 10c, it's the toughest one I've done. A fight from bottom to top. Definitely worth doing, though.