Public Youth 

Come'on now, Brian, you need to clean up these posts a bit. We want a route description, not a grade debate with yourself!, and where the hell are all the pictures? Seems like these routes would be very photogenic! Nice job on all the new routes here, man!!

Is that better, Jay? So you would like me to spend 70 hrs a week bolting, cleaning and brushing the routes, but you don't want to come down and trade belays or brush any holds or take any pictures, but you would like me to hire a photographer too so you can see pictures? I debated even adding these routes to the date base on Mountain Project at all to avoid any form of criticism. I spent over $1,000 on a drill, bolts, hangers, quicklinks, binners, webbing, brushes, etc. Then spent at least 40+ hrs a week (for several weeks straight) hanging in my harness all by myself with ZERO support from ANYBODY, so sorry if there is not a perfect route description or nice photos, but I have been a little busy ;o)

"Spent over $1,000 on a drill, bolts, hangers, quicklinks, biners, webbing, brushes,,etc. Then spent at least 40+ hrs a week (for several weeks straight) hanging in my harness all by myself with ZERO support from ANYBODY, so sorry if there is not a perfect route description or nice photos, but I have been a little busy ;o)"

I hear ya on this one. Putting up routes in CCC is a lot of work. After excavating about 60 routes there myself, it's good to see someone picking up & getting in some of the harder lines....

You're the man, Brian. Keep up the good work. Maybe one day I'll be strong enough to enjoy some of these beasts you're putting up. :)