PSA: Calling All Surface Shitters!!!
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Please Learn How to Poop in the Woods
Yesterday, at Big Chief, we had a great long day of climbing. We hiked out, got to the parking lot, and started loading our packs into the car. I look over and notice my dog enthusiastically eating something about 40 ft. from the parking lot. Lo and behold, he has found someone's shit pile. Let me break it down: 1.) Not the most important point, but still worth mentioning, is the fact that the shit pile was 40 ft. from the parking lot. This area is very popular and crowded, with lots of humans and canines running around. POOP FURTHER AWAY FROM WHERE PEOPLE WILL BE CONGREGATING! 2.) This particular shit pile was on the ground surface, along with a big white flag of shitter-paper strewn about. BURY YOUR SHIT PILE, MAN, preferably at leat 6 inches down! Even then, some animals will be tenacious enough to dig it up. In this case, it would have been enough. I'm not dissing shitting in the woods, IN FACT, I love it! I find the best shit-site I can, getting nice and comfy and enjoying the cool mountain air on my tookus. I'm going to give everyone the benefit of the doubt here on MP (hopefully not a misplaced assumption) and say it probably wasn't you. If it was, you need some educating and probably a good punch in the nose, because I had to deal with your shit pile on my dog's face. There are all kinds of resources on the subject. In fact, there is a book dedicated to pooping in the woods (How to Shit in the Woods, $8) I was first mad at my dog. But hey, he's just a dog and as some of us know, dogs LOVE to eat all varietals of shit. I'm really disappointed that someone would think this is okay. It was probably just blind ignorance, or some city slicker not accustomed to shitting in the woods. Anyways, I need to vent and get this out there. If you are not in the know, please educate yourself. |
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Jared Moore...that is just too sad, but your post had me totally cracking up, as we see this way too often and can relate to the dog devouring the poop meal. More climbers need to step up and let "shitters" know that not burying their feces and leaving the tissue is UNACCEPTABLE. More climbers need to join the "PACT." |
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Well said and apparently it can't be said enough. Bury it deep and pack out your used TP. It's not a difficult concept to grasp at all but for some reason terrible examples continue to occur. |
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Your dog is disgusting. Maybe you should consider having a talk with him about not eating shit. |
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zekem...it's a common practice with dogs, rabbits, rodents, gorillas, and some insects. It helps repopulate the microflora of their stomach and intestines and aids in the digestion of difficult to digest plant materials. However, you're off-topic...try to focus on REDUCING HUMAN IMPACT at the crag, not the dog or its diet. |
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Ever try pooping in a bag. Reduces the impact on alpine enviroments and your favorite crag. That's the shit. |
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Judging by Ben's response, you should be happy that someone was kind enough to supply the microflora that your dog so desperately needed. This thread tune should be changed to more of a 'thank you'. |
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the irony of this dilemma is truly amazing...someone with an off leash dog who is obviously shitting wherever it needs to...on the surface as you say....who is pissed because same dog is eating human shit disposed of in the same manner...maybe all you off leash dog craggers should start looking at cats...they bury their shit....then you got a "leg up" on the human surface shitters...just saying |
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Dow Williams wrote:the irony of this dilemma is truly amazing...someone with an off leash dog who is obviously shitting wherever it needs to...on the surface as you say....who is pissed because same dog is eating human shit disposed of in the same manner...maybe all you off leash dog craggers should start looking at cats...they bury their shit....then you got a "leg up" on the human surface shitters...just sayingI knew it wouldn't take long before someone had to be a dick. My dog is actually quite exceptional at taking shits where people will never see it. And if it happens to be close to/on the trail where you can see it, I fling the poo. Are you bored? Or are you, sir, a surface shitter? |
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Dow has a good point...yet no response logically answering it? |
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Pete Spri wrote:Dow has a good point...yet no response logically answering it?Good point?! That's laughable, mane...HAHAHA! Sounds like Dow just dislikes crag dogs, which is an entirely different matter all together and suited for another thread. |
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Jared Moore wrote: My dog is actually quite exceptional at taking shits where people will never see it. And if it happens to be close to/on the trail where you can see it, I fling the poo.Sorry to bust your chops a little, but as much as I agree with the premise of the OP, you really need to bury or pack out the canine waste too. The city slicker thought he was being exceptional at taking a poo when he walked a whole 40' from the parking area perhaps. |
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Caughtinside...you are so right, not crazy. Disappointing indeed. |
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Robert Cort wrote: Sorry to bust your chops a little, but as much as I agree with the premise of the OP, you really need to bury or pack out the canine waste too. The city slicker thought he was being exceptional at taking a poo when he walked a whole 40' from the parking area perhaps.Agreed. Something I should be better about, and thanks for bringing it to my attention. |
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Pete Spri wrote:Dow has a good point...yet no response logically answering it?Yes, there was - the very next post from caughtinside: "Call me crazy, but I expect a little more from humans than dogs." |
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Dow, you've made this argument before (against me) but I don't know why you keep using it because it is an extremely weak one. |
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^^^^+1 Josh you're correct. |
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In reality, I am a serious animal rights activist, PETA, Best Friends, the whole works. I campaign tirelessly with time and money against the abusive practices of big ag. I am well known for it and outspoken about it. |
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Seriously I think the dog deserves praise. Don't reprimand him for helping to clean up the crag. He was just doing his part to pick up after a careless human. He doesn't have hands to pack the shit out or dig a hole to bury it. So he just ate it and cleaned up the mess. We should encourage ALL crag dogs to eat shit. |
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Jared Moore wrote: I fling the poo. Are you bored? Or are you, sir, a surface shitter?So you throw your dog's surface shit instead of picking it up and disposing the surface shit properly? Dow's right.. You are a hypocrite. |