Project-ing Trad lines

at what level can you respectably project a trad line ? 5.11? 5.10? 10B? 10C? 10D?

From whom are you trying to garner respect?

Who gives a fuck??

I can't tell if this is a joke or not, so I'm going to assume it's not.

You can cheat at any grade you wish.

Ground up, no hanging. Hanging and working moves are for spurt wankers.

5.3?

Nick Stayner wrote:5.13e?

Fixed.

I LIKE PANCAKES TOO HOLY SHIT.

seriously what>?

Fourth class, or 5.15c I can't remember what the Bible said. Or what the 'Rado's proclaimed.

Turd Ferguson! wrote:
Trad climbing starts at 12c. Everything less should be considered hiking.

John Marsella wrote: They call it fell-walking somewhere...

Or doing 14ers.

Once you project a line it is no longer trad. It is henceforth a gear line.

Got e-mail about this thread...but I didn't post it. Who is this pretender to my username?

well well aren't you fuckheads a bunch of charmers.. i expect it from the poker community but didn't expect it here. Im obviously not looking for respect from any of you.

no one onshights 12c trad..

so thanks for all the wonderful replies ..

and try harder to move out of your parents basement.

Will S. wrote: no one onshights 12c trad..

Are you serious!?! You can't swing a dead cat in downtown Boulder without hitting someone who can.

Mike Lane wrote: Are you serious!?! You can't swing a dead cat in downtown Boulder without hitting someone who can.

It's hard to find a dead cat though, since most of them go promptly into tasty cuisine.

Mark E Dixon wrote: It's hard to find a dead cat though, since most of them go promptly into tasty cuisine.

Heh.
I like Pho.

Will S. wrote:Im obviously not looking for respect from any of you.

Can I be the first to not give you any respect?

And give Will S his name back.

the no respect is mutual..

im keeping the name .. look at the pic and the location .. you might be able to figure out which Will S it is.

You can look back to'79- tony yaniro on grand illusion 13, trad... ray jardine on phoenix '77.. steve wunsch, supercrack12=
74

and these climbers are the average trad climber eh? seems every vid i seen everyone has there gear mapped out and in order .. which means they might have been on it before.. maybe??

Will S. wrote:look at the pic and the location .. you might be able to figure out which Will S it is.

Or I can just look for somebody with a sense of humor and something worthwhile to contribute. So far, not hard to tell the difference.

And oh, welcome to the forum!

Will S. wrote: no one onshights 12c trad..

Well, maybe nobody you know. I've got more than one friend/partner who onsights trad at that level. Not every signle pitch at those grades, but often enough that it's close to a 50/50 proposition.

In reply to your original question, I didn't/don't start projecting them until 5.12s, but unless you are seriously inconveniencing a lot of other climbers (like you're projecting the most popular 5.10 pitch at the crag) then who cares, do what you want/enjoy. I've seen people project 5.9. Whatever makes you happy.

can anyone posting comments onsight 12c trad?

Will S. wrote:at what level can you respectably project a trad line ? 5.11? 5.10? 10B? 10C? 10D?

Projecting isn't part of traditional lead climbing. Its a riddle - I get it! What do I win?