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Problem's with Scarpa boots apparently degrading

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Ryan N · · Bellingham, WA · Joined May 2009 · Points: 195

Before I talk to Scarpa I wanted to check with the community to see if anyone has any experience with this problem.

Both me and my other half are avid ice climbers though last year we spent our winter in Southern California not using our gear. It might be hard to tell by the pictures, but parts of the boots are yellowing, actually the same exact part on each boot which is strange because they are two different models. I have the Phantom Guides and I don't remember what hers are. Both pairs were bought new from Bent Gate about 2 seasons ago. Both stored together indoors. Fortunately, it appears to only be cosmetic but when I pay top dollar for boots I expect them to last.

so anyone have this same issue? Again doesn't seem to effect the over all quality just cosmetic.

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Ray Pinpillage · · West Egg · Joined Jul 2010 · Points: 180

Very common.

Kevin Craig · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2002 · Points: 325

Mine too. I'd be very surprised if it has any structural or durability significance.

Steve Williams · · The state of confusion · Joined Jul 2005 · Points: 235

I have a pair of Scarpa Cerro Torre boots and
haven't had any problems of yellowing or any other
issues.

Ryan N · · Bellingham, WA · Joined May 2009 · Points: 195

Just seems strange. I picked Scarpa's because I've always had good experience and rarely hear bad reviews. Guess I should climb more and bitch less

Eric G. · · Saratoga Springs, NY · Joined Apr 2012 · Points: 70

I'm really curious what you're referring to.

Is it just my monitor, or are those pics too dark to see any yellowing? Could you post a picture where the yellowing is at least placed under a light source?

Ryan N · · Bellingham, WA · Joined May 2009 · Points: 195

If you look at the Grey band that has Scarpa written in orange that used to be the same Grey that's on the side of the soles. It's not actually "yellow" but more burnt. I just used yellow as a generic term.

Peter Jackson · · Rumney, NH · Joined Aug 2010 · Points: 445
Ryan N wrote:If you look at the Grey band that has Scarpa written in orange that used to be the same Grey that's on the side of the soles. It's not actually "yellow" but more burnt. I just used yellow as a generic term.
That is normal, in my opinion.
Mike Tsuji · · SLC · Joined Mar 2009 · Points: 437

Mine are a couple years old and look like that. I wouldn't worry

Avi Katz · · Seattle, WA · Joined Sep 2010 · Points: 260

Any chance they were in sunlight while stored inside?

fuzzy in wisco · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2009 · Points: 25

it seems to me your issue is dye migration, very common in textiles, that panel is synthetic, i imagine, as well as the panel it is over, so the color from one panel is "migrating" to the other, in both cases the yellowing is from the yellow pigment in either the green(hers) and orange (his) panel.
worry less climb more

Ryan N · · Bellingham, WA · Joined May 2009 · Points: 195

Thanks guys

Lesley Kent · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2020 · Points: 0

Hi.
On my boots the sealer between uppers and soles is completely disintegrating. I wrote to Scarpa in Italy and they sent me a contact in Sydney Australia, but I got no reply from the contact and Scarpa didn't reply again.
I definitely won't be buying Scarpa again as they obviously don't care once they've got your money.
Lesley

Alex Styp · · Eldorado Springs · Joined Nov 2012 · Points: 75

Lesley read up on dry rot, those boots are old AF and either got stored in a closet for several years or you bought them on STP or similar. Modern boots gotta be used or they dry-rot. This applies to all modern manafacturers. If that is not aggreable you gotta fly back to the 1940s and buy some welted boots. This is simply onenof the prices we pay for lightweight boots. Additionally SCARPA IT, Australia, and North America are seperate entities, apart from production bring in IT.  Sorry :/ A quirk of modern, especially flexible midsole boots is that you essentially, "use it or lose it". They do not like to be stored in dark, dry places for years. Read link below....

Source: Ive got too many years of experience in boot work and repair, manafacturing, and was at one point a  warranty dude answering these types of requests for a similar company.

https://www.polymersolutions.com/blog/why-does-rubber-dry-rot/

Gunkiemike · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2009 · Points: 3,492

+1 to what Alex said. Polyurethane midsoles can/will degrade with time. Here's a pair that died after about 12 years. It looks like the outer surface of the midsole flaked off (mostly under the heel area) but in reality all of that rubbery material had pretty much turned to dust. The uppers were in fine shape, but they were dead at that point.  Bummer.

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