Poodles are People Too
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Starting up Poodles are People Too!
This climb is located towards the left end of the wall and lies just to the right of the obvious straight-in crack of White Lightning. This was the first of the many Poodle routes in Joshua Tree, and what it all means...well who knows, but this is a fabulous route.
The lower (crux) section of the route is characterized by face climbing with small wires for pro. Not your ordinary clip-up, it makes you question how far you want to go off that last piece...higher, the difficulty eases until a steeper section is encountered at the top. To descend rap off with two ropes from bolts nearby or head (climber's) right to a 2 bolt rap anchor atop The Importance Of Being Ernest (80' rap). As an alternative there are several ways to walk/downclimb off as well.
Pro to 2.5". Small wires and cams work well for the lower part of this route; higher you'll want some bigger stuff.
Sounds like some people I know...
BETA PHOTO: Would you believe...
Browning leading Poodles are People Too.
BETA PHOTO: The business start section.
BETA PHOTO: "Poodles Are People Too".
Photo by Blitzo.
This baby is steep! Doesn't look like it from the...
Thin moves on Poodles Are People Too. 1/2012.
Poodles Are People Too. 1/2012.
Photo: James Sull...
|Comments on Poodles are People Too
|By Brian Reynolds|
Oct 10, 2002
So who DOES know what's up with all of the poodle routes? Inquiring minds want to know ...
|By Anonymous Coward|
Nov 13, 2002
Lots of people know what's up with all the poodle routes. Precious tradition might dictate, however, that such tales be reserved for the late night b.s. session over HVCG campfires, rather than speculated upon and bastardized over the internet.
|By Anonymous Coward|
Dec 18, 2002
The JTree Commandment:
Thou shalt not bastardize the poodle joke.
Oh, and the other JTree Commandment:
Thou shalt urinate on thyself at campfire, and cultivate thy foul language when breaking fast, and covet thy SUV-driving neighbor's wife, and misrepresent thy identity when thy tent is impounded by the NPS. Just no bastardizing poodle jokes.
|By Anonymous Coward|
Dec 19, 2002
uh ... yeah, right. What he said. Except the part about urination.
Jan 13, 2003
The whole "Poodle" thing got started with this route, a tribute of sorts to Charles Cole's giant "Standard" poodle "Gus." It expanded to poke fun at the various macho, pompus or just stupid sounding route names being put up during the 80s. (ie: "Scary Monsters = Scary Poodles; Knight In Shining Armor = Poodle In Shining Armor; etc.) It just got out of control (very silly) from there. (Tales of Power = Tails of Poodles; The Atom Smashers = The Poodle Smasher). Soon other people who had no idea of what prompted all this were naming poodle routes too. Some of the other Poodle routes are quite good too.
|By C Miller|
Jan 13, 2003
Let's see some more Poodle Route names~!
|By Tony B|
From: Around Boulder, CO
Apr 15, 2003
The way I did the crux after a few false starts involved a strange mantle like move off of my right palm... behind me. I went up and down 3 times looking for a more secure way, thinking that a fall from there if one slipped would be up-side-down. Consider a helmet for this route.
|By Joseph Lee|
Oct 10, 2004
Maybe 10c. The first thirty feet is all business. The moves are sustained and technical. The gear is bomber and thin. There seemed to be two cruxes packed into this section. A thin layback move and then a long awkward jam to the left.
From: Oakland, CA
Dec 30, 2005
So good... Spot on about the two cruxes on top of each other. The runout over the small roof and the topout also kept me focused. Less fun were the ropes coming down from the parties rapping above and the peanut gallery waiting in line for nearby routes below.
Careful about where you place pro - some of those tapers are essential for fingerlocks. Great line!
|By Andy Laakmann|
From: Bend, OR
Nov 6, 2006
Best on the wall IMO. While the first 50 feet is the technical crux, the mental crux for most will be the small roof about half way up. You'll want a yellow alien (or equivalent) to protect this move. Expect a little spice as you surmount the roof.
Jan 4, 2007
This is a cool route!! It looked pretty scary from the ground but, there is excellent small gear whenever you need it for the first
crux(s). Protect the roof above with a green OR yellow alien. These moves are not hard but the gear will be below you so if you come off you could slam kinda hard in to the slab (maybe)
|By Guy H.|
From: Fort Collins CO
Mar 24, 2007
A single 70M rope will get you down from the anchors on top and to the right.
This is a beautiful thin line with great gear at the cruxes. Save a yellow alien for the roof. This is the only gear for ~15ft before and ~20ft after the roof.
|By John Wilder|
From: Las Vegas, NV
Oct 28, 2007
really good route with solid pro where it counts. not for the budding 5.10 leader, though!
i thought that while there were two cruxes in the first 30 feet, the upper one was definitely the business. the polished feet make it pretty exciting, too.
From: San Diego, CA
Nov 26, 2007
Great route. Mostly face climbing with a thin crack for pro. My friend talked me into bringing extra TCUs and I was very glad to have them, and not just for the bottom section.
From: Oakland CA
Dec 15, 2008
you can sew this thing up at the crux with a set of stoppers plus some brass. I wouldn't say the brass is mandatory though. Very slick from all the feet paddling around on this one.
From: Prescott, AZ
Oct 26, 2009
Technical feet and thin locks make this an exciting and classic route. This route protects reasonably well enough, but be prepared to do some hard climbing above thin gear. I remember getting a bomber Black Alien placement down low as well as some thin wires.
|By Adam Stackhouse|
Oct 26, 2009
Leading past the lower thin section leaves the rest of the climbing in a much more relaxed mode (e.g., bigger stances)
|By Chris Owen|
From: La Crescenta and Big Bear Lake
Mar 26, 2010
Did this for the first time 20 years ago, and slipped and slid all over the crux. Yesterday not so much but it left me thinking that it's a tad hard for 5.10b, but perhaps I didn't find the correct solution. Takes wires very well - there's a bomber wire placement between the two opening cruxes. Three stars, as it hits White Lightning in the top section and one could bail there, so not completely pure.
So, my middle-aged ambition is to cruise this route with just wires.
|By David Hodges|
From: Parker, Colorado
Apr 15, 2011
rating: 5.10c PG13
Maybe it was just the style or the amount of blood I left on this route but it seems hard for the grade. I onsighted several other routes in this range but this one had me stumped right at the first crux, tore my finger up pretty good and lobbed onto a green alien about 5 times. Maybe 10- after you know the moves but harder for the onsight.
|By Simon Hatfield|
From: Los Angeles, CA
Oct 31, 2011
Excellent route with thin and insecure crux. A sandbag at .10b IMO.