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Pine Tree Crack 

YDS: 5.8 French: 5b Ewbanks: 16 UIAA: VI- ZA: 15 British: HVS 4c

Type:  Trad, TR, 1 pitch, 40'
Consensus:  YDS: 5.9 French: 5c Ewbanks: 17 UIAA: VI ZA: 17 British: HVS 5a [details]
FA: Ralph Schmidt
Season: 3
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Submitted By: James M Schroeder on Sep 22, 2006

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All I really remember about this route is that it was relatively moderate and across the canyon from most of the climbing


Standard rack

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By Remo
From: Madison, WI
May 2, 2007
rating: 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a

Locals in the area call this route "Pine Tree Crack".
By James M Schroeder
From: Sauk County, WI
May 2, 2007


Thanks I couldn't remember what we reffered to it as...
By Tradoholic
Sep 14, 2010
rating: 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a PG13

Almost as good as Zig Zag. I led it with a micro nut on a screamer to protect the lower half, hence the PG-13 rating. I think starting on the left side of the arete with the crack system might give up better pro and an easier start.
By John W. Knoernschild
From: Wisconsin
Sep 16, 2010

I believe you are supposed to start on the left in the crack. Where did you start Rhoads?
By Tradoholic
Sep 16, 2010
rating: 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a PG13

I started on the right face. It had chalk on it while the left side did not.
By Langlois
From: NYC
Sep 16, 2010

Thats where I've always started the route as well (right side)
By Josh Olson
From: Durango, CO
Sep 26, 2010
rating: 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a PG13

I started working on the right face, and it takes a #6 black diamond nut really well....for the first 6 falls. I haven't finished the route yet, but it definitely deserves a PG-13 rating if you start the climb on the right face. Shallow nut placement popped on me, and I hit the ground. Really fun starting sequence figured out though.
By Branden Michelkamp
From: Salt Lake City
Apr 19, 2011
rating: 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a PG13

This Route can also be done on a top rope if one climbs PWB Arete and solo past the anchors to the top (5.3) then going right once reaching the top block of PWB. Makes for a fun setup if you have a group with some less experienced climbers. Great route! I also agree on the PG13 rating I was able to get a 00 Metolius TCU in the lower part of the crack I never fell on it but it looked and felt bomer once I set it.
By waxisgood
From: Milwaukee, WI
Jul 3, 2011
rating: 5.9- 5c 17 VI 16 HVS 4c

the lower part starting on the right takes a really good #5 brass offset then a perfect purple after that to get you through the spicy junk. very fun lead and very well protected if you figure it out.
By Stephen H
From: Central WI
May 20, 2012

FYI: June 12th 2012 my friends and I put up new webbing on the pine tree above Pine Tree Crack. The webbing is tan (khaki) and we put up two chunks and put back on the screw grate. Please check it and replace it as needed.
By Rich T
Sep 2, 2013
rating: 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a

I think the folks that rated this 5.8 are delirious. Granted I attempted an on-sight lead and found the lower 15 ft difficult to protect. However, I think on TR it would still feel like 5.9. I only add this comment for the 5.8 leader to be cautious and prepared. I can't wait to get back on it.
By Jack C.
From: Portage, WI
Jul 13, 2015
rating: 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a

If you've got the smallest ballnutz they very effectively protect the bottom up into the really obvious and bomber cam placement. So if you've got those it really doesn't deserve the PG-13. Not to say I wanted to fall but, then again, we never do.

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