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Pickpocket 

YDS: 5.8 French: 5b Ewbanks: 16 UIAA: VI- ZA: 15 British: HVS 4c R

   
Type:  Trad, TR, 1 pitch, 80'
Consensus:  YDS: 5.8 French: 5b Ewbanks: 16 UIAA: VI- ZA: 15 British: HVS 4c [details]
FA: Jim Erickson, Dave Breashears (solo) 1976
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Submitted By: Ivan Rezucha on Feb 5, 2005

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    This is short but challenging and definitely dangerous if you're a 5.8 climber. Rossiter calls this VS, but I had lots of (mostly dubious) gear. To be safe, be a solid 9 leader with good gear skills. Rossiter suggests soloing it as did the first ascent party.

    Start: Pickpocket is on the "Pickpocket Wall", the lowest part of the west face of Redgarden. Follow the stream trail until it turns uphill along the west face of Redgarden. You'll see the chalked 5.13 Captain Crunch with a few bolts and a pin. Left of this is the left leaning left facing shallow corner of Breakfast of Champions 11a. At the right end of the Captain Crunch overhang is a pocketed wall, with pockets leading diagonally left to a bit of a break in the upper overhang. That's Pickpocket. The blunt arete right of Pickpocket is Steak Dinner 9vs. The short slab right of that is South Face 7vs. Left of Pickpocket are a 9vs and 10bvs, both obscure and hard to figure out.

    The climb: Step onto the face and get some gear as the traverse left is on pockets that are worse than they look. You can get a green Alien on the left side of a downward pointing flake and a decent nut beyond that. A pretty hard move up leads to good hands and a stance below the overhang. I got in 6 pieces here, the first 4 being dubious. After peering over the lip, I downclimbed and got 2 good pieces, which I'll describe, since they may be hard to see. Up and right near the lip is a crack that takes a small cam. A little below the horn you lean off to reach the lip is a short hard-to-see-into crack that takes a good nut.

    Above the lip you can place a good cam up and right before pulling the ceiling, but it's pumpy and semi-blind. If you're feeling good, skip it, walk your hands left along the lip and step easily over the lip.

    The slab above is very easy. Get a nut for a directional and optionally a #3 Camalot/3.5 Friend in a slot higher up. You could perhaps set up a TR from that slot with 2 or more cams, but I didn't think that was real safe. Instead, you can walk off the back of the slab, across some scree to a big block. Place gear and belay here, or scramble down and belay from the trail to be more sociable.


    Protection 

    Single set cams from micro to #3 Camalot/#3.5 Friend, single set nuts including brass. Long slings.



    Photos of Pickpocket Slideshow Add Photo
    Getting the jug at the lip. It's hard to clear the roof here. Instead, walk you hands further left before stepping over. <br /> <br />The nut by my knee is good but needs a long runner. The cam on the red rope behind me near the lip is decent. The pieces at my feet are somewhat dubious. <br /> <br /> <br />Photo by Chuck Graves.
    Getting the jug at the lip. It's hard to clear the...
    The route diagonals from bottom right to top center in the photo. This is the lowest point of the west face of Redgarden, and perhaps the lowest point of Redgarden. <br /> <br />The trail is just out of the picture at the bottom. The belay is in the bushes.
    The route diagonals from bottom right to top cente...
    Getting gear above the lip. From the jug at the lip you can reach up and right to somewhat-blindly place a cam. I got in a good 0.5 offset Friend. <br /> <br />Photo by Chuck Graves.
    Getting gear above the lip. From the jug at the li...
    Taking the VS out of the climb: 3 pieces at the traverse, 6 pieces at the ceiling and 1 piece over the lip. Maybe I overdid the protection...
    Taking the VS out of the climb: 3 pieces at the tr...
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    By Kaelen Willaims
    Jun 10, 2007

    Fun boulder problem.

    By Leo Paik
    Administrator
    From: Westminster, Colorado
    Jun 11, 2007

    With all due respect, this is not a good boulder problem to blow. The crux is high enough that you'd be in bad shape if you blow it turning the bulge. Only 5.8, but a high ball at that rating. Best to think of it as a solo...albeit fairly short.

    By Kaelen Willaims
    Jun 16, 2007

    True, this thing would be called "zone two" in John Bachar's ropeless rating system: if you fell you would definitely get hurt, but you wouldn't die.