Petzl M10 Crampons Question
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Hi folks, |
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Cant speak for the M10 but I have the Petzl Sarkens and the snow plate works perfectly fine and is really durable |
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I loved my M10's. The front points were bullet hard, even to the point of being tough to sharpen. I ended up selling them however because I hated the antibott so much since it was a latex rubber. It ripped in several places during the first season which is rather unreasonable for a $40 product. And it was a terror to get on, my hands were chop suey. |
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I had a pair for 4-5 seasons and ran them both dual and mono point. They were very nice crampons albeit a little heavy (old style), but one complaint that I did have was that I thought that the secondary points were a bit too close and at such a shallow angle that they were somewhat ineffective. Not sure about the new designs though...maybe they solved this issue? |
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I've had the m-10's for about 4 seasons. I just duct tape the bottom as anti-bot plates and reapply once a season, works as good as any plate and it is cheap. Love the m-10's |
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M10's prob the best crampon I have ever owned. I use the mono-spike, for some reason the m10's give me so much more confidence when leading ice. |
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The anti-bot is terrible, and they're heavy. Otherwise, good crampons. |
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As others have said, great crampon, but the antibots are clumsy. I had them on for awhile, and then I just took them off and resigned myself to knocking the snow off with my axe. I wouldn't use them for glacier walking or long snow approaches. They are steep ice machines, but not really designed with the idea of walking around in the snow much. The sarken is a good in between with an integrated antibot. They climb ice well and walk OK. |
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Is there any way around for the antisnow plate? DIY possibly? |
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Bang wrote:Is there any way around for the antisnow plate? DIY possibly?Totally...I'm pretty sure there are a few threads rolling around about using either milk jugs / detergent bottles w/ tips. Pretty standard, and looking back I might have done that instead of just switching to BD. |
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I wonder if the mousepad rubber material will be more durable? |
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Bang wrote:I wonder if the mousepad rubber material will be more durable?Well if it's anything like the latex rubber they have now...negative. |
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plastic water bottle(disposable) + zip ties = antisnow plates that should last a season... cheap and works great |
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Theriault wrote:plastic water bottle(disposable) + zip ties = antisnow plates that should last a season... cheap and works greatInstead of zip tie, I think using brass wire and some M2x0.4 (or any small sized) screws will have a more robust mounting system. I am working on my version of the anti balling for the M10 using the mousepad rubber. After tested it out, it has reduced the snow accumulation significantly comparing to the other side that does not have it on. I will post some pics up later after I have improved my current prototype. The reason I am choosing the mousepad material because for most mousepad, they have the tough fabric layer on the surface, that acts as the scratch protection for the rubber layer. Also, mousepad rubber is not closed rubber, it has small bubble air gap inside, so it will not be teared easily comparing to the latex material the orignal M10 antiball plate has. One issue s that those air bubbles tend to trap moisture in it, it takes a while for it to dry up. If you have any other suggestion of material to use other than the Milk Jug, please response to this post :) |
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Hey folks, |
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Bang wrote:Hey folks, Here is an update on the homemade anti-snow plate for the Petzl M10. Cutting a piece of rubber and mount it using a piece of brass wire secured at the front screws. Feedbacks are welcomed, thanks.That look reasonably good, what thickness of rubber did you use and is it any kind of spiecal rubber; or can I find it at a hardwear store? |
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I would look for a pair of Petzl Lynx instead... I looked at both the M10 and the Lynx and it seems like the Lynx is Petzl's replacement of the M10. I found they are pretty mean on ice. They have super long front points which allow you to see where your points are actually hitting on the ice. Also, the snow plates have lasted just fine on mine. |
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Jeff J wrote: That look reasonably good, what thickness of rubber did you use and is it any kind of spiecal rubber; or can I find it at a hardwear store?Hi Jeff, The rubber I am using is about 1/8 inch or 3-4 mm. I tried to find them at the hardware store nearby, but no luck. Then I tumble on some scrap rubber left in a machine shop I work at, so I just use that. But I am sure one can buy those rubber out there. |
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Eli Harry wrote:I would look for a pair of Petzl Lynx instead... I looked at both the M10 and the Lynx and it seems like the Lynx is Petzl's replacement of the M10. I found they are pretty mean on ice. They have super long front points which allow you to see where your points are actually hitting on the ice. Also, the snow plates have lasted just fine on mine.Hi Eli, I agree with you that the M10's main design flaw is the anti-snow plate. The Lynx has fixed it. But since I bought the M10 couple months before they released the Lynx, there is no reason for me to buy the Lynx right away. About the front points' length, wonder if you have held the M10 in hand before, you can adjust and move the front points outward, so it can actually get quite longe sticking out. |