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Petzl M10 Crampons Question

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Bang Nhan · · Charlottesville, VA · Joined Dec 2010 · Points: 35

Hi folks,

I wonder if any of you have used the M10 before? And how you like it?

I wonder if the Petzl's antisnow plate for the M10 will reduce its performance. Their antisnow plates do not look as elegant as grivel's So not sure how well they are.

Thanks

RockinOut · · NY, NY · Joined May 2010 · Points: 100

Cant speak for the M10 but I have the Petzl Sarkens and the snow plate works perfectly fine and is really durable

Scott McMahon · · Boulder, CO · Joined Feb 2006 · Points: 1,425

I loved my M10's. The front points were bullet hard, even to the point of being tough to sharpen. I ended up selling them however because I hated the antibott so much since it was a latex rubber. It ripped in several places during the first season which is rather unreasonable for a $40 product. And it was a terror to get on, my hands were chop suey.

I heard on a previous MP thread though that the new model will have hard plates installed, but I have no idea when that is supposed to be released. If that's true it might be worth the wait. It's a shame that such a great crampon has such a poor accessory. Why they put it on the Sarken ($160)and leave it off the M10 ($250) is beyond me. Last time I checked ice climbers walk through snow too.

Chris Graham · · Bartlett, NH · Joined Jun 2008 · Points: 545

I had a pair for 4-5 seasons and ran them both dual and mono point. They were very nice crampons albeit a little heavy (old style), but one complaint that I did have was that I thought that the secondary points were a bit too close and at such a shallow angle that they were somewhat ineffective. Not sure about the new designs though...maybe they solved this issue?

Josh Brown · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2008 · Points: 20

I've had the m-10's for about 4 seasons. I just duct tape the bottom as anti-bot plates and reapply once a season, works as good as any plate and it is cheap. Love the m-10's

Brent Butcher · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2010 · Points: 275

M10's prob the best crampon I have ever owned. I use the mono-spike, for some reason the m10's give me so much more confidence when leading ice.

Kai Larson · · Sandy, UT · Joined Jan 2006 · Points: 436

The anti-bot is terrible, and they're heavy. Otherwise, good crampons.

paintrain · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jan 2007 · Points: 75

As others have said, great crampon, but the antibots are clumsy. I had them on for awhile, and then I just took them off and resigned myself to knocking the snow off with my axe. I wouldn't use them for glacier walking or long snow approaches. They are steep ice machines, but not really designed with the idea of walking around in the snow much. The sarken is a good in between with an integrated antibot. They climb ice well and walk OK.

I climb with Darts now and pull out my old M10s once in awhile. Whenever I climb on them I always remark on how well they climb. Great crampon, but definitely a steep ice tool.

PT

Bang Nhan · · Charlottesville, VA · Joined Dec 2010 · Points: 35

Is there any way around for the antisnow plate? DIY possibly?

Scott McMahon · · Boulder, CO · Joined Feb 2006 · Points: 1,425
Bang wrote:Is there any way around for the antisnow plate? DIY possibly?
Totally...I'm pretty sure there are a few threads rolling around about using either milk jugs / detergent bottles w/ tips. Pretty standard, and looking back I might have done that instead of just switching to BD.
Bang Nhan · · Charlottesville, VA · Joined Dec 2010 · Points: 35

I wonder if the mousepad rubber material will be more durable?

Scott McMahon · · Boulder, CO · Joined Feb 2006 · Points: 1,425
Bang wrote:I wonder if the mousepad rubber material will be more durable?
Well if it's anything like the latex rubber they have now...negative.
Marty Theriault · · Quebec, QC · Joined Apr 2011 · Points: 310

plastic water bottle(disposable) + zip ties = antisnow plates that should last a season... cheap and works great

Bang Nhan · · Charlottesville, VA · Joined Dec 2010 · Points: 35
Theriault wrote:plastic water bottle(disposable) + zip ties = antisnow plates that should last a season... cheap and works great
Instead of zip tie, I think using brass wire and some M2x0.4 (or any small sized) screws will have a more robust mounting system. I am working on my version of the anti balling for the M10 using the mousepad rubber. After tested it out, it has reduced the snow accumulation significantly comparing to the other side that does not have it on.

I will post some pics up later after I have improved my current prototype. The reason I am choosing the mousepad material because for most mousepad, they have the tough fabric layer on the surface, that acts as the scratch protection for the rubber layer. Also, mousepad rubber is not closed rubber, it has small bubble air gap inside, so it will not be teared easily comparing to the latex material the orignal M10 antiball plate has.

One issue s that those air bubbles tend to trap moisture in it, it takes a while for it to dry up.

If you have any other suggestion of material to use other than the Milk Jug, please response to this post :)
Bang Nhan · · Charlottesville, VA · Joined Dec 2010 · Points: 35

Hey folks,

Here is an update on the homemade anti-snow plate for the Petzl M10. Cutting a piece of rubber and mount it using a piece of brass wire secured at the front screws.

M10 Anti-snow plate DIY 1

M10 Anti-snow plate DIY 2

M10 Anti-snow plate DIY 3

Feedbacks are welcomed, thanks.

Jeff Johnston · · Bozeman, MT · Joined Sep 2010 · Points: 110
Bang wrote:Hey folks, Here is an update on the homemade anti-snow plate for the Petzl M10. Cutting a piece of rubber and mount it using a piece of brass wire secured at the front screws. Feedbacks are welcomed, thanks.
That look reasonably good, what thickness of rubber did you use and is it any kind of spiecal rubber; or can I find it at a hardwear store?
Eli Harry · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2011 · Points: 75

I would look for a pair of Petzl Lynx instead... I looked at both the M10 and the Lynx and it seems like the Lynx is Petzl's replacement of the M10. I found they are pretty mean on ice. They have super long front points which allow you to see where your points are actually hitting on the ice. Also, the snow plates have lasted just fine on mine.

Bang Nhan · · Charlottesville, VA · Joined Dec 2010 · Points: 35
Jeff J wrote: That look reasonably good, what thickness of rubber did you use and is it any kind of spiecal rubber; or can I find it at a hardwear store?
Hi Jeff,

The rubber I am using is about 1/8 inch or 3-4 mm. I tried to find them at the hardware store nearby, but no luck. Then I tumble on some scrap rubber left in a machine shop I work at, so I just use that. But I am sure one can buy those rubber out there.
Bang Nhan · · Charlottesville, VA · Joined Dec 2010 · Points: 35
Eli Harry wrote:I would look for a pair of Petzl Lynx instead... I looked at both the M10 and the Lynx and it seems like the Lynx is Petzl's replacement of the M10. I found they are pretty mean on ice. They have super long front points which allow you to see where your points are actually hitting on the ice. Also, the snow plates have lasted just fine on mine.
Hi Eli,

I agree with you that the M10's main design flaw is the anti-snow plate. The Lynx has fixed it. But since I bought the M10 couple months before they released the Lynx, there is no reason for me to buy the Lynx right away.

About the front points' length, wonder if you have held the M10 in hand before, you can adjust and move the front points outward, so it can actually get quite longe sticking out.
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