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Petzl Lynx and Baruntses

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CurlyFry · · Unknown Hometown · Joined May 2014 · Points: 70

Does anybody have a this crampon and boot combination? I have a size 43 Baruntse and the Lynx, and im having trouble getting the PERFECT fit. They fit relatively well/tight but I am a new at ice climber and was wondering if anybody else was running this setup and had any suggestions for a perfect fit.

Is it normal to bend the metal of the toe bail to better fit to the boot?

ROBERT LOOMIS · · SPOKANE · Joined Aug 2012 · Points: 82

Hi CurlyFry,

My reply is directed only to your last question. I would not use the word "normal" in this context. But I think it is common for dedicated ice climbers to modify their gear and that includes their crampons. Speaking only for myself I tend to be on the lookout for old pairs of crampons at places like Switching Places in Canmore and if the price is right I buy the crampons only for the spare parts and choices it gives me. So I have a few old pairs I have parted out. What I do is mix and match among manufacturers to get what I think is optimal for me. For example my current favorite pair of technical ice crampons are BD rails from the late 1990s, matched with a base plate from the mid-2000s, together with front and back bails with straps from some Rambo Comps--fits my boots and my technique well. I should also say I milled down some of the parts and purchased some non standard nuts and bolts and washers for some things I wanted to try. My current second favorite pair of crampons is a similar mix of parts from different manufacturers together with some welding. On several occasions I have used a press to shape the bails to what I wanted.
Never in over 40 years of climbing have I had a part failure or crampon failure. In fact, due to my willingness to re-invent, I have had some good positive results for me. All the people I know who are dedicated ice climbers have modified their gear through grinding, welding, drilling, cutting, filing, etc. They all seem pretty safe and smart to me. I think this sort of creativity and confidence is commonplace among the dedicated who seek to get the most out of their equipment and recognize that manufacturers build for a mass consumer base--so design compromises are expected.
So to summarize--I cannot tell you what to do about your bails, but you would not be a "lone wolf" if you did some modifying to enhance the boot-bail interface. Good luck.

Cheers and safe climbing,

Bob Loomis, Spokane, WA.

CurlyFry · · Unknown Hometown · Joined May 2014 · Points: 70

I have access to a gear locker for an outing club I am part of, so I will try on front bails from various brands to see which ones fit the baruntses toe welt best. I also realized if I could get a length of metal that the to bails are made out of I could shape a toe bail to my boot, a custom toe bail if you will, just like you mentioned with using a press.

The reason I posted this thread was just to see if any other ice climbers are using the same boot/crampon combo that I am, and to see what they've done if anything to get a better fit.

I too have took consumer items and customized them to better suit my needs, but it has always been with a needle and thread.

Thanks for the response, and the info.

ROBERT LOOMIS · · SPOKANE · Joined Aug 2012 · Points: 82

Hi CurlyFry,

Happy to help. There are also climbers with machine shop businesses who can do things for you that you might not feel comfortable doing yourself. For instance, Dane Burns has a machine shop business in Issaquah, Washington, and he does custom work for climbers all over the world. As a very solid and competent climber himself, he knows the performance issues well. His reputation doing custom work to a high standard is solid and world-wide. But there are others as well. I know there is at least one similar in Colorado.

Cheers,

Bob

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