I liked the ski vids but the climbing one was too jerky in my opinion. Can't see how one would do a really good POV for climbing. Especially on a really long route. The shots from the belay were better I thought.
Maybe if you just got vid while close to the belays and then thru in some still's. But I would leave out the helmet cam I just couldn't keep watching it.
Seems like if you had two so that you could at least get each climber when near the belay. It would be great if you had a way to clip it in safe so you could leave it mid pitch so as to get your second climbing past.
I liked the ski vids but the climbing one was too jerky in my opinion. Can't see how one would do a really good POV for climbing. Especially on a really long route. The shots from the belay were better I thought. Maybe if you just got vid while close to the belays and then thru in some still's. But I would leave out the helmet cam I just couldn't keep watching it. Seems like if you had two so that you could at least get each climber when near the belay. It would be great if you had a way to clip it in safe so you could leave it mid pitch so as to get your second climbing past.
Ya,Im still trying to figure out the best way to utilize the GoPro for climbing.. Skiing, cycling , and Ice climbing the videos seem to come out ok..I have found that shorter clips or editing the video down to just a couple moves can help..It does get boring pretty fast though.. I also agree the more cameras the better... Cool video of riding in Tucson.. I guess you could try clipping the GoPro to a piece of gear that you place while leading, then you could get shots of the second as they climb-up-to and clean the route..
"Obsolete" may be harsh, but there's always something better around the corner. In terms of "holding your videos back", it depends on what you mean. A HERO 2 will record videos, just like a HERO 3, but the quality and features of the latter can certainly help make the video better even if you're not a pro athlete. Smaller/lighter: not really needed, but nice. Higher resolution: more picture definition. Higher framerate: better fast-action smoothness and/or slower slow-motion. WiFi remote: convenience WiFi viewfinder: choosing the right angle can make (or break) your video Other things are always being improved upon too that aren't really easy to convey in a spec sheet. Brightness, white balance and color reproduction, for example, are always being improved. Most of my snowboarding videos end up being shitty because my older Contour camera doesn't do too great in this scenario. Compared to the demo video for the HERO 3, which includes snowboarding shots where the sun is IN the frame, it's a completely different ballgame.
I guess my main point is that I think artistic vision, editing skills, and general experience shooting video will go a long way to making someones films more interesting, regardless of fancy camera.
Edit: Ian, nice video, but what's up with the sound. Sounds like you have playing cards stuck in your spokes.
That's what I meant about the sound always being shitty. When you mount the camera on a rigid bike fork 12" above the ground and go 57mph down even a slightly bumpy road, every sound is amplified like crazy. Especially in my case since I have the contour camera and not the gopro, which has a worse mounting system and it rattles a bit (likely what you're hearing). The contour is good for a helmet mount, but I think every other mount the gopro is better. If I bought another camera it would be a gopro (I won the contour). I think newer cameras also have the mics positioned in a way to reduce wind noise and such.
By no1nprtclr From Front range Colorado Nov 9, 2012
never used the gopro but using the contour on my helmet, i'm riding in central america on my motorcycle and find the vids interesting to a certain degree. i don't like the teletuby look of the gopro (mounted to a motorcycle helmet), however i think it may have better optics than the contour. may try the gopro in the future attached to crashbar or something. i am not sure about the use of a video camera for climbing though. seems as though you're a little close to the wall, but i have not seen many climbing videos that people have made. i am finding it interesting and fun to edit and put music to the videos which is part of the appeal for me.
I got one as a gift... I have since then discovered the usefulness of having it take one picture every 30seconds or once every minute. On multi-pitch climbs this is amazing. Sure you will 800 photo's when you plug it back into your computer but it will take pictures you never would think of... I have a picture right as my buddy and I topped out on a long climb in the middle of a high-five. This sounds dumb but was our single best picture of the climb. It eliminates the need to stop what your are doing and take out a camera, risk dropping it, and try to get a good picture. Another thing we have done was to leave it somewhere and have it do a time-lapse of some of our climbs... Really helped us see some of our weak spots in certain climbs/adjust our style, but also some good route beta/fun pictures too. Get creative with the time-lapse it is pretty cool.
Used it for videos for a brief time but then discovered what everyone else has... You'll never watch the videos...
One downside, every person who thinks they are hot shit, thinks they are on video and this brings out the extra douche in them until you tell them it's taking pictures... Normally they are like "oh" "that thing can do that... that might be kinda cool" yeah... I know. We are not always to get sweet footage...
some of us are just too freakin lazy to take a camera out of our pocket....
Go Pro footage is most entertaining if combined with a 3rd person camera angle. My best friend works for a sky diving company editing go pro footage. He came out to visit me in Colorado and we made this video: m.youtube.com/watch?v=OUyCrGUOs4o
I climbed it twice, once with the go pro, once without. The route was like 5.4, so not really that exciting. I think it would have been a boring video were it just first person footage or just third person footage. But together it's kinda cool, obviously nothing groundbreaking. But I think that the GoPro democratizes adventure film making, and I'll always watch a well done YouTube video made with a helmet cam.
I don't own one, but I have at least one friend I climb/ride with who does, and it definitely gets some use. Even if you never make a full edited video from the footage, you'll can get some cool pictures pulling stills from video.
Nate C wrote:
What do you do with your videos? Do you ever watch them? Show them to other people? I feel like I would love having some things recorded, but I feel like I would never do anything with them... Are they worth getting, or was it simply cool at first and now sits in a drawer somewhere? I know it depends on the person, but I was hoping to get some general opinions.
Racing is one of the best uses for GoPro cameras. With some effort, I took two of the original cameras, one standard view angle and one wide-angle, and was able to sync the video in premiere to make this ice racing vid:
Climbing is comparatively slow and not conducive to video action, IMO.
Man I love my GoPro. I take it on all of my trips and its the only thing I film with. I got it with the idea of making short videos of trips instead of taking lots of pictures. Its a fun way to go back and remember the trips you know? I like that I don't have to be careful with it. I can toss it around and drop it in water without worrying about it breaking.
That being said I also really enjoy the whole process of editing and putting the project together. I use all free programs to do that, so that's a plus. I know people that have GoPros and never use them or use them a little and then do nothing with the footage - which is a waste of money until I borrow it and use it as a second camera on trips.
Here's my most recent video - which I already posted on this forum - but its entirely on a gopro, so you may want to check it out. Also it should link you to my other videos - which are all filmed on a GoPro (except the snake one)- you can see my progression with editing, especially in regards to color enhancement and such (raw video from the gopro is a bit flat - you can sharpen it and increase the dynamic color range, etc. in Cineform - which you download for free off gopro's site)
Definitely worth the money,in my opinion, if you plan on using the footage.
Crap. Use a contour sometimes and have now had it fall off 2 times while mid route. It's survived the falls too which is amazing but still... If you use a contour make sure the mount is backed up with something.
The footage is cool, but just can't find the time to put it together...
2 reasons why I don't have one: I don't like the look of the footage. The compression is ugly, and I don't typically care for fisheye shots. POV footage of climbing is excruciatingly boring except in tiny doses.
It doesn't have to be in wide angle. It can do narrow angle as well.
Cutting and choosing a soundtrack on youtube takes about 15-30 minutes. Very primitive, but it's all the time I have.
In most cases I use GoPro as a standstill camera. Especially when working on a route way above my head and hanging a lot. I just set it to time lapse and end up with one or two worthwhile pictures out several thousand.